Oh no doubt. Oliver can be a raging idiot (love him though), but Barry is just incompetent half the time and needs to be told how to use the powers he's had for three years.

He spent time off screen with him, but on screen its underdeveloped as hell.

I still love his mocking "YOU KNOW DAMN WELL WHO!!!"

I doubt that. Particularly given Barry's immense tendency to rewrite the timeline.

There's a video of bts on YouTube, it's a really, really strong indication that she's alive. Plus I'd say it's more a push or set-up, I feel the climax has yet to come or at least end. And Iris staying dead, while ballsy I just don't think I'd in this show's wheelhouse.

Maybe when Savitar was dodging the gun?

Oh no doubt, but from your wording I thought you thought Barry took them or helped them go to Earth-2 from the get go.

True and that is a serious issue with Barry ( in regards to his flaws, and the show needs to address it like Arrow and LoT have and stick to it), but in regards to breaking into ARGUS I don't think addressing hey we're breaking into a government facility, is the same as Barry addressing a fundamental character flaw…

Wait nah that'd be a pretty shitty test, it's just terrible security.

He did that's how they got to Earth-2, Wally took them.

I mean (not that it helps) but I think Lyla was almost using it as a weird test of character in hindsight. Maybe, still bad security though.

Yeah basically.

Oh no doubt. Dumb as f*ck.

Yeah it doesn't really make sense for them to do that, unless (as some people think and according to some bts stuff on YouTube I saw) Iris' death was faked and part of a plan.

I'd pay to see that.

Dammit now I wish that happened.

Does Gideon still work? If not Speed Force.

Jesus how did I not realize that.

Oh that's totally okay. Because it's totally not a subjective point in time that changes.

Shit that's awesome.