I watched that show for a time and then after the 72 day marriage I realized that I didn't like or respect anybody on the show and I really detested Kim and PMK. Also, I realized how phony and scripted it was. Slow learner I suppose. I stopped watching entirely.

You're right. I meant UnReal so I edited my post.

What, you are into teenagers? Maybe you are a teenager. These women are young, attractive, and without children, but obviously your idea of young is kind of creepy.

That's funny. I'm glad someone here is being lighthearted. The show, after all, is a light hearted, guilty pleasure, and for those who take it seriously, then they need to watch UnReal.

Thanks for adding the details. I remember that now that you posted.

Thank you for clarifying. I remember that now that you refreshed my memory. That is an interesting point about Don and Pete.

I agree. I understood her resentment of him, but she was really nasty to him when he had been kind to her in so many ways.

There was a period of time where Don deteriorated, was drinking all day, made a crazy presentation and lost the Hershey deal, and Joan was resentful because it was impacting her finances….if I'm remember right.

Unwed mothers routinely had their babies adopted. If they tried to raise them, the child was considered a "bastard" and were socially rejected. Sometimes a parent or married sibling would take the child as their own so the secret was kept.

Adoption was more acceptable then. Young unwed mothers gave their babies up without having open adoptions. Parents who couldn't conceive happily adopted the babies and everything was kept secret as far as the identity of the birth parent. These days it seems that people are more apt to keep the babies even if they…

He was more connected to Roger, but Cooper didn't betray Don. As long as Don was a more or less good ad man, he let him be. He saw Don as a whole, the good and the bad. When Don was a drunken, inappropriate hot mess, he gave him consequences.

I don't think he revealed that he had changed his identity, just that he was very poor had had a horrible childhood.

That's right, Bert knew about Dick Whitman and kept Don's secret and never used it against him. I forgot though how he happened to know.

I seem to remember that Bert Cooper knew that " Don Draper" was his alias and that he had a secret past. He knew, kept his mouth shut and kept in in the agency. Maybe Bert was a father figure. With Roger he got drunk and they were buddies, but not not with Bert. Now that I think of it Pete knew something about…