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True.

"your 'movement' is objectively sexist and it has zero credibility" - I think this is wrong but I won't get into it as we'll never agree on this topic.

I'm serious, it was my favorite movie of 2015. Fucking awesome action flick.

I'd prefer if Finn touched my Lightsaber, actually.

Actually, my number 1 movie was Mad Max. A great film actually. Furiosa is an awesome character.

"They're all whiny asshole men who hate women and usually POC"

The are factually wrong and I've got evidence. This is from the mouth of Roosh V, directly, who the author is criticizing.

Well, she is one of the few who has actually lived during 40's Norway and 50's Sweden where gender norms were more strictly informed. I've learned a lot from her, she's a strong woman. I think you'd learn a lot from her as well, even as a 80 year old she's still 100% functional on her own. It's impressive, actually.

That is a straw man, nothing short of it. I'd be able to do the same argument between feminists who hate gay men and religious people who hate gay men. (Strangely enough, the feminists who are against same sex relations always are against same sex relations between men.)

Your critique is based on how all these three communities have a distaste for feminism and I understand where that comes from. I will not defend all the words spoken by every single MRA as I've personally seen misogynistic things coming from them. However I have also seen such things coming from feminists. Misandry,

It's important though. While I don't think anything that the PuA community does is illegal, I do find their moral ambiguity to be rather off putting. You and I have similar opinions of the PuA community-

Not even sure what a fuckboy is, however I'm sure it's similar to such stereotypes as the "Blue haired dyke SJW". I think a productive discussion is based on how we approach a differing opinion, not on whether we agree with it or not.

That argument can be given to you as well. My anecdotal experience differs from yours. There is no real objective way of judging this argument.

"Right, so they're whiny assholes of just different stripes."

Most people I know actually don't lump those acronyms together, even the people who are unfamiliar with these movements tend to understand the difference very quickly. Even my mother and my grandmother have a decent grasp of their various ideas and political leanings.

I think you're mistaking The Return of Kings with MRA's, as well as some other MGTOW communities. As an MRA, I really enjoyed the character of Rey (Finn was a different matter.) and I never really felt that the politics of her message was hamfisted. While I disagree with some things (As her need to instantly assert

Hey, MRA here. I haven't found a single MRA that has complained about Star Wars. I have, on the other hand, found many MGTOW and PuA's who have complained. I need to point out that even if there is some cross over, these are hugely different movements.