i don't discount quesada's role, but bendis carried over a lot from ultimate and put it right into the avengers. a lot of the these issues were really distilled then. just read amazing and avengers during that time period; they're like two comics about two different people. and bendis is the architect of everything…

it was bendis that that regressed him when he became an avenger. before that, he was a mature, married adult. between the avengers and ultimate spider-man, marvel went with the bendis model of spidey the perpetual teenager. just read any story line by jm dematteis, roger stern, jm stracynski, or even david…

i cannot express strongly enough how PISSED OFF i am about this at the moment.