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    He was the best thing in I Heart Huckabees.

    Where exactly did I say Milo's audience has a nuanced belief of Maher's views? And yes, I know what a Venn diagram is. Prick. And you certainly implied there was a significant overlap. It was as weaselly as Maher's "not unreasonable" crap last night.

    Or refusing to acknowledge polling data for that matter.

    When you're equating Maher's audience with Milo's, I'm not the one embarrassing themselves.

    I conceded the point that Maher allowed Milo to conflate their views. But you're being disingenuous. You say that you don't conflate Maher and Milo's view's, but you describe them as equally hate filled, and then say their viewers share a lot of overlap. You want to have your cake and eat it too.

    No, I think not. I and Thomas R pointed out evidence previously you preferred to ignore. And again, I acknowledge that Maher erred in letting Milo conflate their views. He was being agreeable, and stupid. That does not mean they are the same. Either put up or shut up with your venn diagram horseshit.

    First, evidence. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Second, this guilt by association shtick is getting old.

    Ok, that's mostly fair. He left Milo off the hook for that. But I don't think anybody who has a brain and follows Real Time would believe their views are equivalent.

    Now you're just being naive. If you look at the polling data, a disturbing number of people in the Muslim east believe some things we would consider pretty fucked up. Remember, Hamas was ELECTED. A lot of them would consider an atheist like myself worthy of death. To deny this is to bury one's head in the sand.

    Acknowledging that a lot of people in the Muslim world hold opinions that are far more congruent and with and extreme than the Christian right than the left is not hateful. It's reality. It doesn't mean we don't help people who are fleeing Iraq, or people fleeing Assad and ISIS.

    So what? Jesus Christ. I'm sure a lot of leftists - myself among them - support a Palestinian State. It does not mean I support Hamas.

    Maher used kid gloves, which was disappointing, and his "not unreasonable" waffling deserved a slap. That said, yes Milo is as awful human being. But you do know Maher's had Charles Murray on the show right? Charles fucking Murray? The guy who wrote the Bell Curve? He's far, far more dangerous in the long run