Well, Book Avasarala did blow up at this point pretty much like this— at Mao.

Sky High is not talked about NEARLY enough.

OMG TOTALLY. I hope Donna gets what she wants next season more than anyone. If it dovetails with what other people want, fine, but if push comes to shove, Donna all the way.

"Cameron seems to be more willing to work with others she may not like if their shared pursuit is one she's passionate about" What?!
But she fired the dudes, even the one willing to play nice with her! Kind of Cameron's thing, and I LIKE Cameron, is her unwillingness to play with others and her insistence on doing…

I'm curious (I am not saying this with an agenda): have you read the comics? I'm just curious, since you seem not to have, and most people with something negative to say are comics readers. Though I did once see a commenter on Pajiba who didn't like the show and was guided to the comics and loved them… in which case,…

That's not it. It's that they took a bunch of interesting, flawed but basically decent characters with incredible backstories and turned them into fucking assholes with cliched reasons for acting like cunts. Last week the only people I cared about were Tulip and Cassidy and Eugene. Now Eugene can go fuck himself in…

Yeah, I hope so too! Some of the theories, like Genesis influencing him, or him blowing up the town and having to seek redemption— those things could work.

No, no, explain away. I mean, I'm not happy with the fact I'm not happy with the show. I want to like it, and hearing perspectives like this give me some hope.

I don't even know how to respond to someone who thinks objectivity is possible with respect to aesthetics.

I mean, I would be fine with that kind of protagonist— and I'm fine even if they don't redeem themselves. I just don't find Jesse compelling at all— and you do, and that's fine. I think for me it's the simple-minded Christianity that really sticks in my craw. He's stupid in a way that isn't funny or interesting to me.

People who like the show are entitled to their opinion. I am entitled to mine as well. What I'm saying is that my dislike of the show doesn't stem from the fact that this isn't a by-the-numbers-adaptation. I am confident that it's not because I have liked adaptations that are wildly dissimilar from their source.

I'm glad that you do, and you're entitled to your opinion. My broader point is that the problems that comic book fans have with the show isn't so much that it's not following every bit of the comic, but that the departures the show is making aren't really working for us.

As a reader of the comics, I honestly don't care if it's different. I just want it to be good, and ideally I would like it to get the "spirit" of the comic, but if it's a different thing it's a different thing. I mean, I think one of the reasons The Departed was so great is that it really pivoted from Infernal Affairs…

Yeah, I totally agree. Jesse is the worst. I mean, I would be fine with him being someone other than the Jesse of the comics if he was a good protagonist. But he's dumb in every way. Doesn't listen to anyone, doesn't pay attention or care about the consequences of the Word, has a really simplistic kind of Evangelical…

Funny, I'm generally OK with the changes they've made to Tulip— like you said, she's just not comic-Tulip, so I'm trying to take her for what she is. Jesse Custer, on the other hand, is a simplistic Christian asswipe.

I think it's an inevitable thing that happens with ANY adaptation. I myself really like when an adaptation diverges from the source material, but I am personally struggling to understand the purpose of the changes here. A lot of the choices just don't make sense in and of themselves. For instance, generally I like…

I was a bit bored by the show so started reading reviews to see if this was going anywhere. I don't know that it is, but if Grace Zabriski is in it I'll watch.

Yes, I do hope that's where it goes. I am actually happy to regard this show as a separate entity from the books, but this weird acquiescence to Christianity Jesse has and the super lame flashback to his dad and the poorly established and somewhat hacky motivation for him becoming a Preacher is worrying. I actually…

Yeah, Tulip's characterization, and Jesse's, bug me. I feel like the whole point of the book was that they're basically good people— in an unconventional way not bound with religion. Their criminality is of the harmless Robin Hood variety, they don't go around murdering, they steal cars. In fact the whole series to me…

So why the hell isn't the born to be a star singer credited in this movie?