The closing shot of that episode (Ep14) is Carol and Tyreese carrying along on the track to Terminus.

It's that thing where a remark describes itself. I love it when that happens.

If I may, I think it's not just the lack of a 'fucking', but that such censorship comes after a man has his eye and eye socket eaten, and is then just generally chowed on, after a woman was threatened with rape, and something of a start was made on raping a boy, that the father of that boy tore another man's throat…

I liked it. The show does action well, and it was plenty tense and creepy. Sorry to see Joey Joe Joe go - someone who really enjoyed his villainy.

Or for everyone.

I think you're almost completely right, but you've got to leave room for the cat analogies. I'm betting Joe has a cat analogy or story for nearly any situation, it's just we've only been privy to one.

Is there a reason no-one swears? I'm guessing it's something to do with broadcast time or such? They can have a child kill her younger sister, and then have the grown up in parentis loco shoot the child in the head, but they can't swear? Even if I survived two years into the ZA, I'd still be swearing when faced with…

Some people need only the slightest reason

Is Jeff Kobor in anything worth watching? I really liked him. Like the long lost brother of Kris Kristofferson and Ron Perlman. Great shirt, too.

I think the second season is so loathed because it was the first time the show's problems became really apparent. Compared to the first season, it couldn't help but seem like a decline. It was when expectations were forced to be reset. Since then, we've been watching with lower expectations.

Thanks.

I disagree on this particular instance, but I'm sure there'll come a similar point when I'll stop watching. I started last summer, this season being the first one I'm watching 'live'. It's not going to be what I want it to be, which I'm still coming to terms with. I suppose it'll be when I decide it's not even…

Being someone who doesn't get why season 2 is seen as particularly deserving of opprobrium, could you explain why it's so terrible?

"Carol basically had no choice. The writers did. They didn't need to paint her into that corner."

Do you find it colours your perception at all? I live in the UK, so download and watch it monday morning - it airs monday evening here, but I don't subscribe to the channel it airs on. I've loked at the overview/grade page before watching an episode a few times, and found it affected my viewing.

As a tree-hugging certainly-has-reservations-about-guns nut (so far as there's any point/need to be one in the UK), I'd have a crack at killing a zombie if need be. I would think that if someone refused to kill even when under attack, you would likely have no option but to let them go. It depends on any personal…

It was made quite clear she saw them as more than reanimated corpses, as worthy of living as people. And that she thought it a bad thing to kill someone so they don't turn - that people should be allowed to turn. Maybe she came to see it as a natural progression of life.

I think Lizzie sees walkers as people. Better, even. She said she could hear them talking to her. I took that as literally. She wanted everyone to be a walker. As far as she would be concerned, Mika would be better as a walker. When teling Carol that she saved Tyreese during the prison raid, she says of the woman she…

Carol's change makes sense to me. She was wrong about killing Karen and David stopping the spread of the illness, though likely did save them a more drawn out death. And her actions were meant, above all, to save the girls, which she/they failed at big time.

As others have noted, she was apologising for pointing a gun at Carol. She didn't think she'd done anything even the slightest bit wrong in killing her sister so she'd come back as a walker. She wanted them all to be walkers. She was just sorry she'd drawn a gun on Carol, probably because a shot to the head would put…