A simple line would have kept the continuity.

Personally, I would have found it more interesting if we never saw the governor's transformation to nice guy. I would have preferred if we just suddenly joined a new camp and there was the governor doing dishes with a new family being all happy and kind. Then at least, he would be a legitimate mystery.

The only motivation I see is that the writers want him to be "bad".

Yeah, I caught that, but kind of assumed it was nickname too because nothing about the way they interacted seemed to reinforce an actual family bond.

I agree, but I didn't get that the governor was all that stressed. It was like he went from 0 to batshit over the suggestion he might help lead the camp.

This is another problem I have with WD. They are not very good at establishing and consistently keeping time or geography clear…. or character… or motivations…

That all makes sense and kind of the conclusion I came to, but I did not actually see any of that on screen (except why he killed Martinez).

Yeah, I am a little confused about the geography. If the Zombie pits are next to the camp, why didn't the Guvnor and the girl see the camp when running (when they fell in the pits in the first place)?

And in a camp that small how easy is it to kill someone and sneak the body out? And where is that dock? With all the other people that are apparently camped in that area, he doesn't think someone might find his anchored Zombie?

That was such BS.

There were a lot of quick changes tonight.

Me too.

Hate the governor storyline.

I am with you on the idea that I don't get to tell others what offends them, but I don't think annalise ever clearly says what has offended her.

Actually, I said I thought she might have been the troll who earlier was shouting about sexism. I could be wrong.

Completely agree.

This kind of hints at what I see as one of the weaknesses in the biggest complaints about the sexism of Doctor Who— most, if not all of the Doctor's weaknesses seems to be rooted in the stereotypes of being male (paternalism, control issues, ego, emotional unavailability, etc.). I see the compassionate (sometimes…

I don't think asking for examples of the sexism specifically in this episode is any reason to apologize. I am the first to admit that the whole conceit of the Doctor always taking on a (usually young, attractive) female companion could be considered evidence of sexism (but there are also arguments against it). But…

Really? This season has been bad (see below), but whole moffat era is worse?

I would argue that as a long term arc character, the "plot device" argument could hold, but most single episode supporting characters are essentially a plot device (or just comedy, or color, or whatever metaphor you want to use).