Exactly. She called for Maddie's attention and once Celeste saw they were both in shock she had no reason to be puzzled about it.

I wish they'd found a way to clarify that. It's quite possible that her having a gun was meant to indicate that she was there for a reason, but the book made it explicit that she moved where she knew he was going to live (via a flyer he had with him when they met) and wanted him to see Ziggy and see that he was kind…

I gasped when I read it in the book but somehow I gasped even more when I heard it said. Skarsgard is terrific.

I guess that's the show's logic, yes. From my understanding kings and queens would usually award their allies and close ones with goods stripped from rebels and dead people but the show clearly wants to antagonize James and Darnley by this point. From Mary's perspective she's doing nothing terribly wrong and James…

I think or at least hope she should be annoying, I just wish she wasn't so… cliché bad. Everything she says just exudes "I'm bad! See how bad I am?"

She surely is annoying and I'm going to maintain this until I understand (hopefully) what her plan is.

Well she did prove a little egomaniac and obsessed with power lately. She was going around saying she's running the country when she 100% wasn't, she only wanted to claim she was. So I don't think they painted her as stupid, they just showed she was so tempted she turned out being delusional.

It's a testament to the writers' talent that sometimes they manage to make it come across somehow despite pretending that she was a navigated monarch all the same

Yeah there's so much wrong about the Darnley thing on the show it's almost pointless to start talking about it. They depicted it pretty well on the BBC miniseries Gunpowder, Treason & Plot.

I think Bothwell is roughly the right age considering Kane is playing younger but Darnley is definitely too old from what I remember. One thing I thought, and maybe I'm overreading or having too much faith in the writers, is perhaps they're casting all these tall, dark, older man to better physically underline the…

Exactly. I can see where he came from but he was still very hard to relate to/support. Especially when he refused to go see Foggy at the hospital.

I didn't think Agatha would actually die after all because she seemed perfectly fine. Like, she wasn't even pale or weakly or anything. I really felt for Elizabeth, though, so props to Rachel Skarsten.

Well there was a hiatus so long this might actually as well be episode 19

To be fair, however unlikely Mellie can be as potus candidate at least she was a senator for a while. Abby was just… There. They played with her ambition.

They probably told her what she wanted to hear, which is both a sign of how pathetic she is and of how pathetic we all potentially are.

What I meant is for someone who likes Olivia as much as I do it goes to the episode's credit that I barely noticed whether she was in it or not. The whole structure thing is probably about not giving too much work to pregnant Kerry, but it's starting to work. Sure, I'm quite tired of rewarching the election night too,…

I also don't remember if Olivia was even in it and I don't care??

I loved that line.

That's an interesting perspective and it could have been written in, yes. On the other hand I think Danny is sort of cherry picking when it comes to his two backgrounds, you can't tell by how easily he drops the ball on both that he doesn't seem particularly interested in either of the two so yes he'll act Buddhist…

I surprisingly liked this. Like, a lot.