Absolutely. There are so many layers in that relationship. Robert has an element of ambition to him and part of him seems to even resent Elizabeth, and yet he's also the more romantic of the two somehow. He's the one who's hurt when Elizabeth speaks of marriage in terms of being bound by contract and diminished. On…

Lola's storyline in England was good for both her character and Elizabeth's, definitely. In fact, I was low-key hoping she'd realize she was better off in England and dump both her queen and her husband. But as a Tudor freak I really care for Robert and Elizabeth's dynamics and I hope we didn't lose him.

Exactly. I'm a bit sad they didn't mention that she was actually a relative of Elizabeth's and even a bit of a look alike of hers actually. What baffles me is that if Robert comes back to court with his new wife we'll be stuck recycling this year's storyline. Still, Robert's casting is one of the best on the show and…

I definitely want Elizabeth to get more screen time. I'm kind of hoping given the slaughter of side characters and the reduced episode order maybe the show will get its shit together and give her the attention she deserves. As for the spinster thing, I agree they didn't go that way so far and I'm crossing my finger…

He does give her some great looks. I truly wish we'd gotten more of them because the EP said it was the epic love story of the season but frankly she didn't give them nearly enough screen time. That scene in the garden a few weeks ago was such a thing of beauty in its depiction of desperately unspoken feelings. It was…

But everything I'm saying, being something that comes from me, is obviously my opinion and my perspective. We all get impressions. I'm actually relieved you got a different one because the last thing I want from this show, which I've often defended, is to see Elizabeth depicted as some bitter spinster who hates Mary…

I sure hope he wasn't written off. What I love about irl E/R is how they were never really over, and I'd be forever disappointed if they turned out to be over just now with no display of how giggly and at ease they were around each other. Drama is good, but I would have loved to see some lightness, some laughter,…

That wasn't my judgement but the message I thought they were trying to pass. Personally I think Mary lost because she thought she'd have it all (husband and queenship) in a time where it just probably wasn't the case. Well, that and because she went to England and then proceeded to plot against Elizabeth. But the show…

I actually really dig Catherine and Narcisse (and Kenna and Bash in the good old days). Might be because they're the same age and overall so similar. But couples on this show last averagely so little you hardly grow to care.

And not just that, they need to work on something that makes us care for what's going on. With Lola gone was it really necessary to kick Robert off from court too? Are we supposed to look forward to seeing Elizabeth alone in a room? Catherine also needs to have Narcisse back as an opponent or whatever he is now,…

I thought she had decent romantic chemistry with Francis but no overwhelming sexual chemistry with anyone. The show also acts weirdly with couples who do have chemistry though, it's like the minute they actually work they decide to break them off or kill one of the two.

Agree on point 1) and 2) but I do believe we were supposed to take Lola's words at face value. We're supposed to believe Elizabeth will always be alone and miserable because she's giving priority to power, whereas Mary will always be beloved because her heart is oh-so-open and good. Besides, Lola has always been…

To be honest I found most of this episode hard to watch, but I'm not talking about Lola's execution. It's Gideon I can't stand anymore. Why do they keep giving me him and Mary in bed together? I've never seen such a blatant lack of chemistry in my life, I literally need to look away.

I appreciate the effort but I'm still mourning Danny Pink. He had a black actor who could have been a major character, but guess what? He killed him off. Try again, Moff.

I believe the showrunner said in an interview it's definitely Esteban's.

Thank you.

You make a bunch of really great points. I felt particularly sorry for Rogelio that time Mateo swallowed the diamond. I was almost literally shouting at my laptop for her to get over it. Bailing on him also wasn't her best move, whereas I was a little more understanding when she got mad at Xo because she tends to…

Fair enough. My angle is only slightly different and here it is: while Betty, however smart and well read, could be goofy and mess things up a little bit, Jane just comes across as simply perfect and this can make it hard to relate to her. The audience (or me, at least, lol) feels about her the way Petra does: she's a…

To be fair I'm very much concerned that Michael was shot. But I do agree Ugly Betty was perhaps more flawed but still on another level.

Damn Ugly Betty. When I think about Hilda and Santos I still cry. So sad and yet beautifully handled. I hope they won't go there with Michael though.