Also I think the thing that sucks the most is that it's worst for CASUAL players, those who use the console once a week or once a month. they get it the worst, because they have to update shit basically every time they launch something

I actually gave up on the xbox one after it took me a full 90 minutes to launch forza. I don't have it anymore. and the PS4, I feel, is better at all this. for one thing, you can not accept the updates, and you can launch unupdated games while it downloads. so I just feel less pressured and don't mind it as much. the…