Dolorous better get the screen time he deserves now

I enjoyed it. Visually it was definitely an amazing hour of television. Neil did a hell of a job. And i did get choked up over Ygritte but I wonder if I would have felt the same had I not read the books. The same question applies to Oberyn and the red wedding.

Intent doesn't change the horrible writing. But we all have opinions, clearly.

Seems D&D were trying to write something deep but they forgot that they aren't GRRM. Far from it.

That beetles monologue…yeesh. Just embarrassing. Should have spent that time with Oberyn instead.

Quite a few of the actors have made negative comments about it so it wouldn't surprise me. And that interview Neil Marshall did about how he was forced to include nudity is still creepy as hell.

I was really excited about her storyline this season and in particular this episode but wow, that was just disappointing on almost every level. It seems the only female Stark the writers will ever bother making a real effort with is Arya.

They really have no choice but just to spring it out of left field. I don't think it will be as bad as it seems, we'll have to see how they handle it.

Jaime and Cersei's relationship is one of the most fascinating for me. How important they are to each other's development, how they shape each other's narrative even when they're separated. The show had an opportunity to delve deeper into their dynamic now that they are reunited and completely dropped the ball. And…

They need him when it's revealed that he betrayed Tyrion and never sent Shae away. You know it's happening.

Well, they repaced Lollys with a long disturbing scene of Sansa having her clothes torn and almost being gangraped.

Didn't he also bring up being in turmoil over having to hear Cersei being raped by Robert in S1? I seem to recall it being brought up. Can anyone confirm?

Jaime is a character that has been established as knowing exactly what constitutes as rape (He considered Cersei and Rhaella being forced by their husbands to be rape, not their "right".) and being absolutely repulsed by it.

Tyrion? He had sex with a sex slave in ADWD who he knew was not willing. He also fantasizes about raping Cersei.

Yes it's sad in that it speaks for how desperate Tyrion is for love. But it wasn't love, she was simply doing her job, so there was no betrayal.

I don't trust these writers as far as I can throw them so it wouldn't surprise me if she does do exactly that out of anger for him sending her away.

Nobody? There have been tons of media articles and fan blog posts written about it…

And maybe question how you watched that scene and thought it was clearly consensual.

They made Tyrion into a bad guy by having him sacrifice his own happiness to ensure Shae's safety? They've pretty much stripped him of any flaws or questionable morality he had in the books.

Yes Cersei is all of those things but her actions aren't without motivation and the show had done a piss poor job of showing what exactly those are other than wanting power. That maggy the frog's prophecy hasn't even been mentioned is puzzling considering just how instrumental it is to Cersei's past, present, and…