One of my close friends got a 2012 waaaaay back in 2013. He gets a pass.

Yes, we've been pandering to white men for centuries, and look how equal the world is now.

Yep, realistically the Model S is the only one where the buyer has full plausible deniability of knowledge that Musk is a dbag.

boughtI feel like we can give some grace to those who bought a Tesla before 2018... Or at the very most, before COVID.

Came here for Altima drivers (caveat - it has to be a ratty one and not in an old-folk’s colour - I’ve known a sweet old couple who drove a gold or champagne coloured Altima and I have no beef with them at all).

For loud exhausts, it helps not to be cheap. I bought a HKS hi power for my Fit, and my wife (who hates fart cans and popping exhausts) noted she didn’t hear much outside the car when I tested the exhaust by driving past her and with her following in a second car.

He's smart at grifting. So not zero, but also not many (at least not many good ways)

Do we tell him now, or let him find out from the Ukrainians?

He and Musk do make a good pair...

Honestly, I bet a simple Ukrainian FPS drone would be more than sufficient. And we'd get some fun footage out of it too...

What with Boeing’s reputation, it might feel/be safer too.

You’d feel different if you were a spacebound misfit....

Strictly hypothetical, but I wonder what role (if any) the Cyber truck's body/structure had in this - I wonder how much crash structures and crumple zones (or a lack thereof) impacted the survivability.

Absolutely. I say this as someone who adores a 5-speed Fit.

This was why I disliked Tesla fanboys even before Musk revealed himself to be who he really is.

I’ve been watching a lot of videos about the Drake v Kendrick beef, and the realization hit me: Tesla stans are the Drake stans of the car world.

I was catching up on WSJ’s The Journal podcast and they were talking about Musk’s Trump embrace.

I am shocked by your comment.

I’m with you, but at least this is a step in the right direction (towards Chapter 11 hopefully).

That sounds like entertainment!