“We begin and end with Rick and the Garbage People (I’m sorry, the “Scavengers,” although I still think my name is better).”

Yep. Time for me to go now that I've scrolled down far enough to see what's happening to this discussion thread. Sad!

I must be more into self-punishment. I'm still watching FTWD, and it took me eight or nine books before I finally gave up on the WoT series. At that rate, it'll probably be season ten of TWD and season six of FTWD before I finally admit the series are both crap and give up on them.

To me it's a tie between "Love and Monsters" and "Fear Her" for the dubious title of worst nu-Who episode ever.

Or, at the very least, he's still talking about it, even though he supposedly hates it. :-)

I thought Eugene's redemption sequence was last season, when he joined the Alexandrians in clearing out the walker infestation during the premiere for the back half of the season.

We are all Zathros.

Sigh. Depressing to see such offensive idiocy on display. Oh, well.

Crap. I forgot to mention that part as well. :-)

The Mullet rules.

Are TWD's problems fixable? Probably not either. At least not without a total regime change (geting rid of Kirkman, Gimple, etc.), which would include not fetishizing the plot of the comics as much as the show does.

True. The show runners have slavishly tried to make show Negan like comics Negan. This is the only significant change they seem to have made, and it's the one thing that seems to work.

I'm so done with that arc as well. It's been going on since the first half of season six, without any sign of resolution.

I get the feeling that the problem with Negan as portrayed on the show is that Kirkman is just too pleased with his creation to realize that what works well in a comic or graphic novel might not work so well on TV. So the show runners make every effort to make the TV version of Negan as much as possible like the comic…

Studying mainly the A-Team's opponents.

I know. You'd think the Alexandrians would be mega-pissed at Rosita for getting Olivia killed and getting Eugene taken by Negan to the Sanctuary, presumably to make bullets for the Saviors.

Correct. They'll spend the back half of this season forming alliances, and not much else will happen.

I'm sure they're going to take at least until next season's midseason finale to resolve the All Out War storyline. Hell, they'll probably stretch it out until the end of next season.

I was wondering too, given that I didn't see this until Monday morning.

Yeah, the episode was way too long. There was no good reason to make this an hour and a half episode. I think it really would have been better as a standard hourlong episode.