Personally, I don't care although I think it's kinda sad. I had an uncle who through most of my life had three main girlfriends, although they weren't living in the same house, he had children with those women. As an adult, funerals and such are kinda awkward but my cousins have seemed to have gotten over it. I've…

Also, I do stand by my claim that what he did isn't as bad as Bundy or Dahmer but I'm in no way saying he she just get a slap on the wrist.

Well, the good thing is I was able to further articulate my point in the several paragraphs above. I should've been more clear. You're right, it could be more ruined. Unlike say Zimmerman who's a hero to many, I feel those kids are going to be fucked for life.

Possession, just a misdemeanor but that can affect your clearance and even your family members clearance for that matter. It's been long enough though so it's not a big deal now, but I was young and it seemed like the end of the world :*( I don't want you to feel like i'm torn up over him, it's just like one of those…

At no point did I say anything to justify their crimes, nor minimize them. When I think of myself at that age, I think of myself as a kid and can't fathom doing something so fucked up that will in my opinion fuck up the rest of one's life. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure i'm not the only one…

I do agree the punishment doesn't fit the crime, but his shit is still fucked, that's all. I did state before that I hadn't heard any mention of an apology which I can't really wrap my head around. I totally agree with their attorney, 100%. I feel I haven't said anything to negate that.

No, I have sympathy for murders too, particularly when they're young. It really depends on the circumstances. There are a lot of kids in prison for their whole life for doing something stupid. It's a waste. In no way does that diminish my sympathy for the victim. I just think it's humane actually. I have no sympathy…

I really don't understand your point I think you just want to bitch. And I think most people would agree that rape with murder is worse. I don't have to go around deciding that because not only is that something I believe, but it's also reflected in the laws of our justice system. That can be decided without…

That's a dumb question.

Justice and closure are so overrated, it seems like neither of them really happen for most. Such is life.

Yeah, I don't recall his lawyer giving a statement apologizing. If he hasn't, that's too bad. It does seem the only statement we've been given is how difficult it's been on him and his family which is implied, so I definitely see your point. Whether he says it or not, we know he's fucked pretty much for life,…

I know this isn't going to be a popular sentiment on jezebel, but I think this kids life seems sufficiently ruined. Not trying to minimize his crimes, but at the same time he's not Ted Bundy. There's a fine line between justice and revenge both being subjective. Obviously, there's never any real justice that can come…

Took me a while to figure out u were talking about bdsm, googled dbms and kept getting things about database mgmt, which would be so vanilla.

Ya know, I think I'm getting her mixed up with the girl who had that asshole boyfriend and they were from the midwest. Nevermind about the dad. It's been years.

I was talking about farrahs father, he was often on the show and seemed amiable.

I have to assume she's with the dad, who seemed like a good guy. The mom was downright scary, although how much of that was botox?

In your opinion how was it not like fascism?

OMG, I'm glad to hear that she doesn't have custody. BTW, she sounds like she's talking about an ex boyfriend, not her daughter.

First and foremost, SMDH. Farrah has shown that she is willing to even exploit her own innocent daughter for a few bucks and fame, so this is par for the course. I don't know what is wrong with her but it's really really sad. I used to feel so bad for her dad when I watched Teen Mom because he seemed like a reasonable…

Fair enough. Sometimes it's just so easy to see the end results like those shows bridezillas, and wedding swappers and such and it's like wtf?! But I'm prolly to cynical to weigh in any opinions on marriage, and I should've recused myself from commenting. One good thing about weddings I suppose, you learn about how…