You said that racism and sexuality change over time making them relevant to a time travel show. I said the same is true for ideas about abortion and consent, so how are they different? You then essentially refused to give an answer besides, "They just are."

Can you explain why you think racism and sexuality are relevant but consent and abortion are not? Because I can't see a logical justification for that.

I tend to agree with you, but we seem to have transitioned onto a much larger discussion about what issues are and are not off limits for Doctor Who.

So racism and sexuality have a place in the show because it's a time travel show and those ideas change over time. But ideas about consent and abortion also change over time, but they're somehow not relevant?

Bill did a horrible thing and should be held accountable for that.

I absolutely disagree. Science fiction has always been about confronting social problems through allegory, and Doctor Who is no different. Why just this season, "Smile" makes an argument about the need to live with people who are psychologically and culturally different from you and whom you might have reason to hate,…

Not always, but if you took my argument that Bill should be held accountable for what she did to mean that people should talk about rape less, then you're absolutely stretching. Stretching like Mr. Fantastic.

You're focusing on something I wasn't even talking about, though. Sunspear is right to call the memory alteration a violation on par with rape. I never disputed that. I'm just saying that can't justify her actions since it happened after her choice to consent to The Monks taking over.

What are you talking about? How does SJW factor into this at all? I'm criticizing Bill because her solution to the situation is to save The Doctor and just hope he fixes things, putting blind faith in him. The philosophy of SJWs is that the world isn't naturally moral, and the only way to make it moral is to…

"She, just like every other companion, never questioned that the Doctor would fix everything."

Right, obviously it's not a perfect analogy because in the real world, giving consent doesn't magically allow a foreign entity to take over. Nevertheless, Bill had every reason to believe that her actions would lead to a foreign power taking over Earth, and she did what she did anyway to save her friend, selling out…

There's another thing to consider here. The Doctor almost kills himself here because he made the simple mistake of not telling anyone about his blindness. There was a way out, but it put an entire planet at risk, and The Doctor advised against it. Simply put, The Doctor made a stupid mistake. He is 2,000 years old and…

So it's important to realize that up until the point where Bill consents, The Monks have essentially done nothing but kill 4 world leaders. Which I suppose is not nothing.

I was saying she was a traitor, not guilty of the crime of treason, which is a legal term that wouldn't apply here, seeing as how we have no legal framework for betrayal of the human race to another species. While I may not have been guilty of the technical legal crime of treason in my argument (though I'm fairly…

Your argument seems to amount to "it wasn't strategic because the show says it wasn't strategic". I was making the point that this episode was poorly written. "Because the story says so" doesn't really counter that.

In this episode, when she shot The Doctor and he went into fake regeneration mode, he never bothered to explain it to her afterwards, nor did she ask about it.

No problem. And I learned something today, I didn't know the NHS paid for in vitro! I'm a Yankee Whovian over here.

I mean, lesbians have to pay for in vitro, something not everyone has money for, and straight folk can just screw for free, so it seems pretty clear that lesbians would be statistically less likely to have biological kids.

Honestly, that would have been the best explanation for The Doctor's behavior right there. In order to completely ruin their simulation, The Doctor chooses to act completely unDoctorly so he can't be predicted.

At the end of "End Of Time", the John Simm Master is sucked back to Rassilon with the other Time Lords when the Time War is Time locked. When Missy shows up, The Doctor asks her how she survived, and she mentioned being set free when he saved the Time Lords. She also shows up with a butt load of Time Lord technology.…