I suspect this is the run up to the transition to pure EV. These figures have been possible for sometime (10 years maybe?) even in the light of CAFE requirements but manufacturers were reluctant for the reasons you explained. Now, knowing we're likely only a generation or two away from going pure EV they can finally…
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The mid sized SUV.
So if it had BRZ power and MPG no one would want to buy it?
For the weight of the BRZ/FRS I'd tend to agree 200hp is a little less than ideal but I think that figure would have been just right for the lighter weight Miata.
Have you seen Mazda's NA fleet? Probably close to if not the most fuel efficient line in America (among major manufacturers) CAFE isn't really a challenge for them.
Yep. I clearly said Miata's should be stuffed with as much HP as possible. It's right there in my post clear as day. You got me.
I completely agree. But could they not have delivered almost as great MPG with a more reasonable amount of power? Toyobaru's are getting 25/34 in a heavier car with 200hp. I suspect virtually all Miata lovers would have taken those numbers over what is being offered.
i think one of the major contributing factors is the SS team got a marketing budget of about $43.76. How many billboards, comercials, print or web ads have you seen for this thing?
ZL1 Camaro's seem to move alright...
because MPG is a top priority when shopping for a sports car? There is no silver lining here. It's dissapointing.
My point is no one ever does a single lap in car A and then compares it to a single lap of car B. Multiple laps of each are done to eliminate (or mitigate to a statistically insignificant variation) differences in track conditions, drivers, etc.
All those issues would be true if you were talking about comparing one off runs round the ring. In reality, anytime you get any sort of even semi official number (say one released by a manufacturer or intentionally leaked by a manufacturer) it's after dozens or sometimes hundreds of laps in varying conditions by…
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Are your "product specialists" empowered to negotiate? Or do you guys still do the dog and pony show where a cusotmer offer is taken to some secrete room for a manager to review and counter?
I'm in sales and my quota is a lofty "aspirational" goal that isn't really meant to be hit. That said, if I was to turn in 28% I'd be fired faster than you can spell EV.
To quote Matt in that video: "it's not crappy at all, I mean it's not fast but it's reasonably predictable, the engine is very strong, the brakes lasted four good laps..."
I wasn't suggesting they ran 20 year old tires but rather OE style and size tires. as opposed to an upgraded tire.
But how many are raced bone stock including OEM tires? I think he was highlighting the point that even the holy Miata needs some aftermarket help to wake it up.
Both runs you've provided were performed by Chrysler using factor prepped (taking a page from Ferrari's playbook) cars. Notice how there aren't any publications hitting those figures? Because the tests were rigged for marketing/PR. They are factory claims no more reliable than Chevy's factory claim of 10.95 with an…