In his defense...that collar isn't popped at least.

Totally...didn't for a moment suggest there was logic in it ;)

But logic be damned...I still get nauseated seeing a 17 year old with a learners permit rolling in a 12C....not so much because of the money, but because of the wasted driving experience (and wasted super-car after he turns the TT off and wraps it neatly…

People say the meanest thing they can think of when they're angry. Regardless of if they think it's true. I mean in the heat of the moment I've called my wife a bitch before but I don't really think.....oh wait...

How many top tier celebrities haven't had a lapse in common sense? His was catastrophic no doubt but Mel Gibson still gets jobs and does Kanye ever open his mouth without pissing off at least a third of the population? Michael Richards deserves a second chance.

No doubt, just pointing out that from a PR perspective it might not been seen that way by the general public.

Have you ever heard of Richmond, BC? They were in the news this week... http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/19/ric…

There is resentment for people who've never worked for it when others out there bust their ass for so little. When you've done nothing to deserve (and often these types act in such a way as to specifically not deserve) these things you can expect this sentiment from the general public.

Good to see them testing it on public roads because, you know, safety first right? Might not be the best images to use for PR....

I can certainly agree that for every dodgy salesman there is an equally dodgy/difficult customer. When I did work in the business I worked at the Richmond Automall (Richmond, BC). And across the dozen or so dealerships the shady tactics were pretty consistent. You sound like the exception and if you are I applaud that…

Well I sold cars, albeit almost 20 years ago, for about a year. I averaged maybe 7-8 transactions a month. So I was far from the top dog for sure. I wasn't that good because most of what I was taught/told to do involved manipulating numbers and being fast and loose with facts and commitments in order to get a…

Thanks for confirming that car salesman are douchebags! You call it "BS" because often this tactic works but ends up leaving you with a flat. As long as the price he lands at is significantly lower than what the dealers were advertising chances are he's not overpaid at all.

And anyone with an M5 over 80k might disagree with you since most have been quoted for the replacement of rod bearings

If you didn't want to know why everyone shits on these article then why did you ask? All I did was explain it to you. Although you could have (and probably did) read everyone else's comments which make it pretty obvious the issues they have with Tav's posts.

And if it had 20k miles on it it would in fact be a great find. But a rat-bagged high miler is nothing to post about on Jalopnik.

You asked why jalops were shit on his articles. I told you. Sorry if that upsets you but I described the situation exactly how it is.

Tavarish is cringing...these Hellcats haven't been shit kicked for 80,000+ miles so they are not worthy of his click-bait headline.

Well the base Cruze diesel includes things like heated leather seats, 17" alloy's, sport suspension, remote start, etc. Other than a couple of minor items like auto-dimming mirrors it has all the LTZ features.

Didn't see the "Fully Loaded" qualifier in the article. Base price, less the cash back on a Diesel is $22,810.

People are shitting on these articles because the are giving people bad advice. All Tavarish's examples are very high mileage. Dealers aren't fucking stupid. They as well as their customers know that these high end exootic-ish examples usually don't last like an accord and they aren't worth much because there is so…

It will happen again. Like about a half dozen times right now on autotrader. If you're willing to gamble on a high mileage '08 M5 there are several examples for <$30k to choose from. And FYI...there is a reason the low mileage examples (<40k) are pulling high $30's to low $40's. The market prices these things for what…