Well damn.
And I was thinking we were so close to achieving peaceful and effective discussion.

Oh dear. No alcohol, AND no kinky sex? What kind of monster are you?

Can’t walk or barely walk? Not moving? Slurring? Probably shouldn’t try to have sex with that person. Just the right thing to do. You know, that whole common human decency thing.

Well I’d argue that alcohol is a lot more a part of human society (Seriously... the invention of alcohol predates freaking farming!) so phasing it out of society is going to be quite difficult.

As a general rule, I have found if both people are heavily incapacitated, but would otherwise have been agreeable to intimacy, it’ll generally play out as both sides deciding a mistake had been made, and they go from there without particular animosity (at least not to the point of pressing charges). No “rape” happens…

Because while I don’t have fun drinking, plenty of other people do. I would be perfectly okay with prohibition, but I’m not stupid and I know our society would riot over it. I long ago acknowledged that I’m not the “Norm” for society.

And no, you can’t choose to be raped. But you can choose whether or not to consent to…

How he’s putting it isn’t great, but he does have a certain point. Kind of like those people who go to war torn countries on vacations and end up dead. What did they expect?

Story time: My uncle was a non-violent criminal. He was guilty. He was wrong. He deserved to be punished and was looking at a 15 year sentence.

Umm... I have a history of depression and even attempted suicide when I drink. I go months between drinks and strictly limit myself on the rare occasion I do. That’s part of why I’m such a lightweight and how I know I am.
You’re making judgements about me regarding things you have no knowledge of.

So you’ve been arguing all this time without any understanding of how and why people - hundreds of millions of people - use alcohol?

KaraThrace probably hasn’t raped anyone, but it’s clear they are very insecure about their intelligence and are incapable of considering that other people [even, gasp, women] have different perspectives. Dumbest folks yell the loudest.

Thank you for your reply, I can totally see why my POV could be considered victim blaming. I’m dancing on the edge of the blade here by trying to substitute “blame” with “personal responsibility” in a sense. It’s a very razor sharp line between the two in this case.

Who is the rest of us? I can’t say for you but I live in a society that has been drinking and fucking for 200+ years? Way, WAY longer than that if you apply it to the rest of the world. The last time we tried to remove drinking the majority of our society opposed it, at times quite violently. Pretty sure most of the…

Does everyone here live in good neighborhoods or something? Expecting the worst in people is a survival skill. There are parts of town that people know are dangerous so most people do what they can to either be safe in those areas or make sure they have their faculties together.

LMFAO...if it was your daughter, one of the first questions you would ask her is why did you drink so much?

Probably because you are a decent human being. Rapists get off on doing stuff to other people that they know those other people would not want.

OK I think i’m missing something:

I’m not saying she asked for it. I’m not saying she dressed wrong or that all woman are here for men’s pleasure. BUT, you get so drunk that you pass out in front of a frat house, your gonna have a bad time.

So she got so drunk that she passed out on the lawn and was just left by herself? Doesn’t excuse what that guy did at all. Not one bit. But for fucks sake if it wasn’t him, it was probably going to be someone else.

They spelled this asshole’s name wrong in the article! It’s Persky, not Perksy. I just want to make sure that anyone who googles him will get this article, but I’m a lowly grey.