Everyone, chill!

Crusaders were used for interception. FAA Etendards weren’t shot down as they never got close enough to be engaged, they were used only for stand-off Exocet strikes. On that note, at least one of the Etendards leased to Iraq was shot down in the early to mid 80s.

They are not refugees, they are economical immigrants. Two thirds of them are men aged approx 18-35. Those who come with families get pushed in the limelight, often by themselves, in order to generate sympathy.

Your opinion is a travesty. Europe is not a police state, and before the it was invaded by the immigrants, the Schengen system was actually one of its greatest successes. That’s what set the Europe apart from the rest of the world, in a good way.

The plane was barely standard, the Exocet was the name of the game. Etendard was only a way to deliver them in the killing range.

Check this out - French Navy was using the ultra-obsolete F-8 Crusaders until the late 90s, simply because they had nothing else. The same goes for Etendard, it wasn’t much of an aircraft, but it could use some of the latest weapons. That’s why Argentina and Iraq had used them (Exocets), and French have kept them for…

No, it was the politics and the national pride. Jaguar was a better choice in every aspect, from having two engines to the actual performance.

You see, you are very wrong about that. Typhoon and Rafale fit the same roles. French government chose to back out from the Eurofighter as it wanted to either have a majority role in the project or to have an entirely domestic product. A simple matter of national pride and profit, not the actual performance of a…

Not only the French, but the Argentinian Etendards have also flown from the US carriers:

I would put the use of MANPADS in Syria on par with their use in various 20th century wars such as Angola or Yugoslav wars - not as prominent as in the Soviet Afghanistan war, Arab-Israeli or Gulf wars, but still damaging enough to result in a wider strategic impact.

What the hell are you talking about? Rafale is a perfect combat aircraft.

If you would go through my post history, you would see that I also complain about the bad acts perpetrated the Unites States; most recent being the several posts yesterday regarding the Kunduz MSF hospital bombing.

Regarding the SVP-24 and CCIP, here is a copy paste from the thread linked below (because it’s relatively comprehensive I don’t feel like thinking about anything technical right now):

Thank you for the kind words and please accept my apologies for the harsh tone of my initial reply. Putinbots often make me loose it.

Why don’t you go fuck yourself.

I think that many of us here have agreed that it is a false information, clickbait, or only a small part of the reason (I’m not sure, because this thread is huge). Anyway, that’s my opinion on that.

Not just Strelas (SA-7), but also SA-18, Chinese FN-6 and occasionally radar guided SA-8. Strela is an old missile and its use is pretty widespread; they have shot down several US and UK helicopters over Iraq and Afghanistan. There is a good Guardian article regarding the Afghan war leaks and the use of MANPADS.

For some reason, I received 6 notifications for this reply of yours. Kinja is on the fritz again.

That and the fact that the maintenance issues go beyond giving them new wings. Engines, software etc. I’ve heard rumors that AF mechanics doubt they will manage to keep them all flying into the 2020s without other upgrades.

We are chiefly discussing the danger MANPADS pose to helicopters, and their proliferation in Syria.