Regarding the SVP-24 and CCIP, here is a copy paste from the thread linked below (because it’s relatively comprehensive I don’t feel like thinking about anything technical right now):

Thank you for the kind words and please accept my apologies for the harsh tone of my initial reply. Putinbots often make me loose it.

Why don’t you go fuck yourself.

I think that many of us here have agreed that it is a false information, clickbait, or only a small part of the reason (I’m not sure, because this thread is huge). Anyway, that’s my opinion on that.

Not just Strelas (SA-7), but also SA-18, Chinese FN-6 and occasionally radar guided SA-8. Strela is an old missile and its use is pretty widespread; they have shot down several US and UK helicopters over Iraq and Afghanistan. There is a good Guardian article regarding the Afghan war leaks and the use of MANPADS.

For some reason, I received 6 notifications for this reply of yours. Kinja is on the fritz again.

That and the fact that the maintenance issues go beyond giving them new wings. Engines, software etc. I’ve heard rumors that AF mechanics doubt they will manage to keep them all flying into the 2020s without other upgrades.

We are chiefly discussing the danger MANPADS pose to helicopters, and their proliferation in Syria.

Actually, Chinese FN-6 was also confirmed in use, both by the rebels in Syria and the ISIL in Iraq. Iraqi Mi-24 was shot down by one of them. Also, a very much new SA-18 was confirmed as being used by the rebels.

It is not my intention to prove people wrong, so I am going to end this discussion. But I will tell you to make a some serious reearch into these topics before making such claims.

I did trust them, but the current affairs caught up with me. I do hope this is just a current phase and that it will go away, because if not, some self evaluating needs to be done.

I don’t visit Jalopnik so often since I had a squabble with the editors last summer (on Black Flag), which had only added to my dissatisfaction with their diluted content. However, I haven’t really noticed that commenters have become that bad.

In my own eyes, it makes me a worse person then I was, when you add some other things to it, before the downfall of the Arab spring.

Is that photo inverted or is it performing an actual roll?

I should’ve clarified that a bit more. When a nation starts loosing soldiers in a foreign (overseas) war, a popular opinion may (and often will) sway against the involvement in that war. Foremost recent examples are the Vietnam and Iraq wars for us, and the Afghanistan for all of us. Also, some minor engagements -…

I’m sorry, but I have no clue what does everything after the yang mean. And I don’t think I want to know; its probably some Gawker tabloid crap.

Unquestionably, it is better than helicopters, but we are talking about a scenario with an ever growing proliferation of MANPADS, and not just the crappy old ones like the SA-7 which have shot down a few helos over Iraq and Afghanistan. And that is a scenario in which a nation that is fighting a limited-engagement…

I consider Gawker as a good example of a bad journalism. However, I did like their reports on the Kunduz MSF hospital airstrike, they were straight out, no personal opinions, accusations or allegations; slightly biased, but towards the things that require extra attention.

Seriously, mate? You think that a sluggish A-10 is an order of magnitude better? Are you aware that A-10s have suffered quite a few losses in the Gulf war, mostly from MANPADS and AAA.

I understand and agree with most of that. I don’t think that losses would always make a nation steadfast and resolute to endure and win, it might lead to exactly the opposite results. And we have seen examples of that in the previous decade, not to mention before.