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Give it time. When we’ve been running around with electric vehicles as long as we’ve been using gas-powered cars, then you can compare. The fact that electrics can do what they do in their technological infancy is astounding. Personally, my money is on electric.

Depends on your perspective. The annoyingly-loud exhaust notes of exotic cars is actually just audible inefficiency. Any energy generated in an engine that isn’t sent to the wheels is wasted energy. Some of it is in the form of heat. Some of it is in the form of friction. A little bit of it is in the form of sound.

Times are changing. What we want out of cars is changing. The fact that we want a clean environment instead of runaway global warming is coming into focus. Lambo just announced that they’re choosing to become a dinosaur and eventually go extinct as a result. It might not happen today, or tomorrow, but if they don’t

I love how people are so miffed about Elon’s bad sense of time, but somehow forget that every one of Tesla’s vehicles becomes a real, mass-produced line. It just takes longer than Elon says - is that hard to remember for next time?

Limit, or start?

It’s 200k cars, not 250k. Sorry to see you go so angrily, but I’ll take a non-bankrupt Tesla over you owning one early. Have a nice day!

I saw a kid, about 15, wearing one at the Smithsonian Natural History Museum in DC. During the March for Science. I was dumbfounded, and a little sad. He probably has no idea what he’s supporting - just like everyone else who supports him.

Unfortunately retooling the production line to accommodate the standard battery would take up too much time/resources. They need high-margin cars at first when production volume is low. After production is ramped fully, they can slip in the less profitable models.

Summer? Mine says early 2019.

Tesla needs the money that higher-spec cars provide. I’d rather wait a bit for the standard battery Model 3 and have Tesla still be a company that have the base Model 3 now and Tesla be bankrupt soon.

It’s fun watching disruptive companies shuffle the old-school stuff around them and then watch people point out little pieces of that as a kind-of reason against progress and disruption.

Hydrogen... that is extracted from petroleum? Ok.

...they don’t even offer dividends and I seriously doubt shareholders are making *anything* at the moment.

How are lithium batteries polluting? Lithium is so safe that doctors prescribe it to patients as an antidepressant! Also, lithium isn’t really even mined. It’s taken out of places like salt flats on the surface of the Earth. Also, when the battery is depleted, it’s nearly 100% recyclable. All that lithium goes right

Sure GM, Audi, VW, BMW and others have charging solutions planned. But they’re not currently widely available and certainly not in the USA in any amount. Tesla’s Supercharger network is already here, ready to use. There’s one by my house! Also, their cars have this information built-in to their navigation systems. Can

Unrelated? Range and charging are so you can go on trips, right? They’re so related it isn’t even funny.

DC fast charging is indeed a thing on the Bolt, albeit it’s way slower. A bolt can technically get about 9o miles of range in 30 minutes. The Model 3 can get nearly double that in the same amount of time: 170 miles on the LR battery. 130 miles in 30 minutes for the Standard Range model.

I never said that. Once again, a lack of understanding is the problem here. Teslas put an on-board computer in each of their cars that tell you where to go to charge, and how long to stay there charging. Rarely will it tell you to stay the entire time until the battery is 100% full. Instead, it will intelligently