Social media was a mistake.

Are you European? North America only got a N/A 2.0L 4. At least I assume the hybrid gets better fuel economy.

Why do you need to drink coffee, eat food, or use your phone while commuting?  All of which I can do just fine in my manual, by the way, but I choose not to.

My big fear with IoT is that it will no longer be supported. Great that I can get a fridge with a monitor on it that ties into my phone to let me know what I am out of. In 3 years, the fridge manufacturer decides to shutdown the server and I’m left with some that loses functionality that I paid for.

Well, you see, the owners held their thumbs over the license plates while taking pictures, so they are 100% untraceable.

Have you been to the US?

Since it’s true that you can’t solve a social problem with a technological solution we’ll need to make it a social solution:
If you see someone in a “self driving” car without a butt in the driver’s seat, hands on the wheel and eyes on the  road, you can ram it off the road into the ditch and claim all their worldly…

I’m gonna go with what’s behind door number 4.

Shhh, don’t let facts get in the way of Shilling’s clickbait.

So is it:

The UAW is one of the most corrupt unions

Yup. I have a full size truck, my wife has a compact crossover, and I still have my old Buick from high school. When that thing finally kicks the bucket (and it has FINALLY turned into an in-town car; the trans shifts hard when hot), we’re going to go down to a 2 car household of a truck and an SUV. If we need to go…

It’s a luxury item, so whatever the market will bear is just fine.  And yeah, having A CAR is not a luxury for some, but having THIS CAR is.  10k will get you a jim dandy town and country if you need something that big. Hell, you could get a pretty nice brand new car for less than half the price of this thing.

in either case...lots of options. lots of things have 7-8 seats now, both in the new and used realms. Honda Pilot (almost sure to outlast the kia anyway), tahoe, suburban (and the gmc twins), toyota sequoia. also minivans, wagons, actual vans..for well under that asking price. 

Yeah, I can’t see any scenario with the words Kia and 80k in it: like you said, if I’ve got that kind of money, there’s other options — me, I’m buying a used minivan and a Corvette (or other impractical car).

*salesman slapping the roof of the Nissan Rogue*

What’s funnier is you *did* get it’s dashboard and instrument panel in the Holden-sold Suburban...

I was trying to work out what country had both Holden Commodores and Grey imported Carinas.. Saw your number plate and correct. NZ.!

Baller. Now I shall add this to “possible import list for stupid 25 year US rule”