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Isn’t Entourage to men what Sex And The City is to women? That’s how I always looked at, at least. Both are just hyper unrealistic sex-obsessed escapism fantasies. Pure wish fulfillment. When either one is watched by the opposite sex I’m sure there’s lots of stuff that will come off as grating and terrible.

Well said. I was scrolling down and wanted to post something similar but you saved me the trouble.

Oh god that is glorious!!

That’s not how any of this works!

Important - I got mixed up in my previous comment there. My bad. I was of course the one who made the reply to the post about people being on the verge of tears. That will teach me to type a comment and talk on the phone simultaneously. I failed to notice that you didn’t write the original post, which is why my

I think this is spiralling out of control, which neither of us wants, I think.
I’m pretty sure I took what you said about people being on the verge of tears too seriously, and based my reply on that, and then you subsequently did the same with mine.
All you probably (?) meant to say was “the article is kind of mean, a

I didn’t intend to pass judgment, I was honestly asking. I see the comparison you’re going for, and it’s sort of similar, but also not really. If a person is so lacking in self confidence that a complete stranger on the internet, who is speaking in general terms so not even addressing them in person, like on a forum,

Should a person (male or female) truly be on the verge of tears over what someone says on the internet?
When a bully says something mean to your face, about you personally, I understand that always hits home, but a stranger? On the internet? Speaking in general terms?

If that makes a person cry or comes close to crying,

That was glorious. I enjoyed it so much I read it twice.

How... How tiny are they?!

This. She’s a spiteful idiot who has a valid point (the free speech aspect), but because she’s a spiteful idiot, she’s actually harming her own cause.

Same here. The car itself I love, but all the circumstances (cigarettes, clutter, etc.) are, let’s say, not ideal.

This.

It’s horrible.
“Look at me, I damaged other people’s property like a crazy person because someone ended a romantic relationship with me.” Christ. People are scary. And all the sensible posts that condemn her are in the greys. What is this, opposite day?
Since it’s her own story and she doesn’t mention anything that

Based on the information you yourself provided, someone broke up with you, and you proceeded to damage their property like a crazy person.
[If he did something horrible to you, you obviously should have mentioned it in your post. Simply breaking up with someone is a normal thing. You made yourself sound like a

I appreciate the thoughtful reply.
In fact I have talked to many Muslim women - I even dated a girl from a Muslim family, although she herself was an atheist, which led to its own series of unfortunate events. Anyway, my point for bringing it up is simply that I’m not judging (well, I guess I am, in a way) without at

A very thoughtful reply! I agree with a lot of what you say, definitely.
The concept of free will has always fascinated me, on a philosophical level. The women who wear a hijab and a bikini, respectively, both think they are doing what they are doing as an expression of said free will, when in fact they are both

Oh I completely agree with your first point. My issue is not with the women themselves - far from it - but with the very concept of religion and its overwhelming misogyny that permeates everything it touches, including its female adherents. Those women (or people in general, if you consider the wider issue of

The very concept of the woman that needs to be veiled is just a symptom of misogyny, in my opinion. While I see your point, I don’t get why so many liberals (and again, I consider myself to be one) simply can’t or won’t accept the simple fact that Islam and religion in general are an anti-woman brainwashing machine.

EDIT: I’m not asking you in particular, DharmaGirl. I’m looking for multiple takes on this. I realize I’m a day late to the conversation though. Timing isn’t great.
TLDR: Why isn’t the covering of a woman’s head or body in Islam seen as a crystal clear symptom of the patriarchy and the inherent misogyny of religion in