Totally. I mean it *is* a little far fetched to have these 3 with virtually no flaws all loving each other, but you know…I'm here for it.

The end game HAS to be Jane and Rafael right? I mean, all of our arguments are sound, but like…they are really creating the most equilateral love triangle I've ever seen.

That was so great! and Rogelio's explanation of scientology. ded

you are the best.

BECAUSE WE ARE PASSIONATE!!!!!! not like boring Michael! hehehehe j/k, its all in good fun.

I was thinking the SAME THING! She was drunk! I also am really deeply #teamrafael and will figure out any way to keep that dream alive.

So true, he is so good with zingers without Jane around…I think he tries to be extra "nice" around Jane because she's naturally nice.

I think Rafael might end up just backing off, and then Jane will come to him…that's what I hope at least. The fact that he played it off that he never heard the conversation makes me think that he wants to make a good choice with this info.

Agreed with everything, except Rafael belongs with Jane. Ride or Die..Rafael for life!

They were the first shot when she entered the room! The table centerpiece.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I don't wanna watch this episode tonight…TEAM RAFAEL FOREVERRRRRRRRRR!!!!

I may be giving it more credit than it deserves. I'm watching from the point of view that nothing mystical is happening at all. Kevin *is* schizophrenic, the coincidences are just coincidences, there are no prophecies and everything that is happening is a result of people needing to assign meaning to things, like when…

I think it makes for interesting storytelling with leaving it ambiguous because it shows that rapists (or possible rapists) aren't all mean old boogie men, that they too are complex people. That is an important thing to show, in my opinion. Like people can think they aren't rapists because they aren't these boogie…

but why did they want him to do that? Why did the "brian" guy want him to do it?

I think the fear is awesome, I think it actually happening again wouldn't be. I think the fear is smart writing.

I think the whole stocks thing brings it from realism to something else entirely. I was so painfully uncomfortable with all of it. I can't watch this kind of shame torture, and I definitely can't watch this sort of self sacrifice martyrdom which is absolutely meaningless…and it's all just hard to fucking watch.

I refuse to think anything that has happened in this show is mystical, and that anything "mystical" is the meaning people put on coincidences and occurrences that cannot be explained. If it remains this ambiguous, it's excellent writing. If not…it's hack writing, like all of LOST.

That, or he kinda gets off on this whole martyr thing…I was so bowled over and upset by the whole stocks thing EXISTING that it was hard to really figure out why he was doing what he was doing.

Well, that's the point. You are shown a sympathetic character and ambiguous events and you need to process that yourself. I am terrified because this is one of the smartest acts of writing I've seen in a long time. And I'm afraid, because Lindelof doesn't have the best track record of keeping his writing smart.

I really think there is absolutely nothing spiritual or mystical going on, and it's just how everyone interprets what they see.
I don't think Mary came back at all, I believe he raped her.