That's an interesting point. "sexiness as part of the character and not just an aesthetic trait" Thanks for the discussion, some real food for thought here.
That's an interesting point. "sexiness as part of the character and not just an aesthetic trait" Thanks for the discussion, some real food for thought here.
That's true, but you don't want to come across as pedantic and condescending , and you should be open to a dialogue and discussion too.
Ok, I'll try using what I remember off the top of my head, if that's ok for now.
It's called a counterexample.
To the extent that stuffed in the fridge troupe is used, it can be problematic. And while I can see how your examples show overplayed overused sexism, in those games you do have some agency even while being sexy (in DOA you can use the women to fight, and Lightning is the hero of that game I think). But if we're going…
You're right. Two wrongs don't make a right, and Dante probably isn't sexist, and I'm sure sexism in gaming, when it happens, happens to women more than men. However, that depends on what you consider sexism. If the bar is set so low (women in attractive gear is sexist, the ability to kill women is sexist) then you…
Thanks for the link, that's a good point. And I won't say the gaming community doesn't have its assholes. it does for sure. But that's a whole 'nother statement than saying "hate dominates the culture". I mean, it could, possibly, but I'd need more proof. Granted, the letters to EA are troubling (I wasn't aware, but…
Gaters ALSO think death threats are bad, and will say so.
This. SOOOOO THIS.
The idea that a woman is deemed a "sexual object" merely because she is considered sexy is one of the main problems with Anita's anti-sex feminism. It is possible to be sexy and be other things as well. But GTA is a good example. yes you can kill the prostitute, but GTA isn't a world where all the women are…
The issue here is twofold. Number one, she takes games where you may have the option of killing women, and then says "look how the game encourages you to kill women" EVEN in the case where the game penalizes you for doing so. Not bringing that up is either dishonest or lazy. At the same time, in the same game, you…
Actually it does. If her method is flawed, all info drawn from that method is flawed too. There is room for improvement but to say there's "casual misogyny is in a lot of games" is a bold claim that one cannot make without some serious data that Anita doesn't provide. But if you're up to it, please, some examples?
If you said "the Holocaust shows that Germany in particular has a problem with genocides" then it would be relevant to say "what about other countries? that would show this problem isn't particular to Germany. and also, what about the rest of German history?"
Gaming culture can't be a hotbed of sexism against women if for every example of female sexism you can find an example of male sexism too.
It doesn't matter what the world population is, what matters is who is buying your games. Even when you consider that women are playing games more nowadays, that's usually because mobile games like "candy crush" (does that game have a female protag? I never played it) are included. But the games that are being…
I have to admit I didn't read the Alexander piece, but this line about a cesspool of rapists that have come to dominate "gamer culture", that is SUCH BULLSHIT, but that's the line that's been drawn. I've been gaming for quite a while now, and I'll challenge that notion that the culture is dominated with misogyny any…
You say "uh, we didn't" but the tone of many of your articles (you provide links to them) implicitly call all gamers that dare to associate under the Gamergate banner misogynistic terrorists at worst and aiders/abetters/distractions at best. And if you don't, Anita certainly does (she says to NPR that gamers are just…
Touche'. Well written reply, but I'd bet Simpsons didn't come up with all that per se. Did you see the crossover episode, Seth basically makes the argument that the Simpsons copied Flintstones. The fat stupid dad and long suffering wife just may be archtypes that predate the Simpsons.
Yes, because The Simpsons invented "the family". Tell me, did they also invent "telling a story"?
#StopGamerGate2014 is essentially the same as #StopMakingDeathThreats which would basically be the same as #Stop[insert bad thing here]. I mean, maybe it can be good for bringing awareness to a cause (I'm thinking of #BringBackOurGirls in that case), but if your position is basically "death threats are bad", who's…