How are other OEMs not competing on a global stage? Almost all of them are in global markets. Tesla operates in supposedly high cost California and has to work with unions at its newest plant in Germany. And I did not exempt other OEMs from fraud. VAG and others have been caught up in Dieselgate emissions cheating…

The car buying experience can be critical. My MIL will only go to one Lexus dealership for all service and purchases. They treat her well and it’s not worth her hassle to try something new. 

I tend to keep my cars for a long time, but after getting my first Mazda due to it being a deal, I have stuck with them two more times. That seems less likely now as my wife is looking for something a bit more fuel efficient than the 6 and Mazda doesn’t offer anything other than “Skyactiv”.

What money is realistically saved? Tesla directly employs its sales and service staff as well as assuming the real estate and equipment costs of said centers. While I'm sure there are potential savings by using this model, the cost is not as low as many would think. 

Ummmm, did you just describe a demand cliff? 

Price. Remember when Tesla teased the $25 car a few years ago at a battery day event? 

Sure, but when your sales are gangbusters you don’t deeply discount your prices. It seems like Tesla is facing a demand cliff and taking drastic action to put off a potentially huge drop in sales. If sales slowed enough the stock would continue a further downward trend that might materially impact Elon’s bottom line.

Yeah, but how does this differ from all the other automakers? I’m in the market for an ID.4 and my wife would like the big glass roof. That’s a big jump in price from the PRO to the PRO S. 

Look, it’s hard for me to say this with any certainty. I fail to see how efficient they can be when they have sprung tents and have been building cars by hand. I’m also not interested in figuring out how software sales (FSD for $15k) and credits figure into this mythical and amazing profit margin. If Tesla is so…

An alternative to these rosy numbers exists. Tesla uses possibly fraudulent accounting practices to make themselves look completely differentiated in the marketplace. Elon has established a culture of fabrications and exaggerations to raise funds and boost his stock price to line his own pockets. The recent spate of…

Discounting shows that demand has fallen off a cliff. 

The EV space doesn’t feel quite ready for prime time. Most of the vehicles are quite expensive and the charging infrastructure just doesn’t seem up to the task. On top of that, I’m not convinced that driving around heavy batteries is doing much for the environment. The electricity is generated and transmitted. The…

Walmart shop and pick up in store or free shipping is very often a better deal and many times faster than Prime delivery.

We canceled it, but returned after Amazon bought Whole Foods. The stupid Prime discounts at WF make the membership worth it for our family. I also share the account with my mom who uses the shipping and Prime Video. 

Counterpoint: I love the huge trail of reporting that is available to look back on when this thing never comes out. 

UK pricing suggest this thing is aimed primarily outside of North America. Maybe if this does well the powertrain goes into American sized vehicles? Because I agree, my freshman in high school is going to hate sitting behind 6'4" me in this thing.

What’s next for Musk? I’d say Twitter bankruptcy. 

Hmmm, seems like Consumer Reports also has some bad news for Tesla:

Yes, production space is the only thing holding Tesla back. Couldn't be a toxic megalomaniac CEO constantly stepping on rakes. 

It looks better than the Model X, which took its design cues from an egg.