The rest of the market has already caught up. I’ve test driven an ID.4 and Mach E and both are much nicer than the model 3 in my opinion. People will cite performance, blah, blah, blah. But I drive around metro Boston and probably average under 30 miles an hour for most driving. Who cares about performance then? The…

I'd argue government subsidies and mandates did more for EVs than Elon. Elon is great at the PT Barnum routine, but making EVs cool for affluent people just isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be. 

I'm thinking the tax credit is causing people to not take delivery. Possibly also increased interest rates. 

I’ve passed due to uncertainty over qualifying for federal EV tax rebates, but ID.4 around Boston are going for MSRP. 

Maybe, but Ford kills sales with the F150. Either all trucks that Americans buy are garbage, or Ford is doing something right. 

Yes, it’s not like the OEM sets conditions and standards for their suppliers. 

You got me to lol with that diaper line. +1

If the time ever comes for a sale of Tesla, we'll then discover it's real value. There's a reason Elon is buying a social platform and selling Tesla. 

Especially in the winter. You're killing my spring grass! 

Great news that a new version of a good car is coming here. Recent news of build quality issues makes me less sure I want to lean into Hyundai. 

I work with a lot of software engineers and most of them bought Tesla’s and the inane promise of FSD. In the last month I’ve heard several of them saying they want to dump their Tesla’s because of what Elon now represents.

I’m 6'4", but don't have a linemen body. I'm 215, but put another 50 lbs on me and I doubt I'd like driving my Mazda 3 still. 

They’ll exist in promotional tweets and events like super hardcore Semi day.

I biked all over the East Side of Providence as a grad student. Didn’t have a car for two years. Quiet, leafy lined streets and lots of stop signs meant most traffic was going slow. Grocery stores in walking distance and decent buses filled in the gaps. Sometimes I took taxis. Largely the car free life was working…

Thanks for sharing some of that expertise! This was really informative.

I saw a local business got a Rivian, and have seen a couple in Rhode Island. Like you I haven’t seen the new Hummer. But I have seen a couple of the Polestar BEVs.

I see a lot of the Mach-es around me in suburban Boston. Lots of EVs generally. Though I saw my first F150 lightning yesterday. It was hard to tell it was the BEV, but the light bar gave it away.

I doubt there's much value in buying it out. I would guess a bankrupt Tesla might be taken over by China and relaunched as the first global Chinese brand. With their own EV pipelines building, what value would Tesla really add? 

Yes. But most manufacturers deleted green ages ago.