well they play at arsenal next weekend so if arsenal and tottenham win this week, and arsenal, and either spurs or city win their match next week they’ll be 2 points, and either 2 points or 3 points behind them, respectively, so uh yeah there’s 3 teams that can catch them

couldn’t have said it any better myself

That’s true. I doubt it would happen since Wideman isn’t claiming it and it would be a bad look for the NHL from a pr standpoint, but you never know with these leagues

I mean it would set a precedent if someone else gets hit in the head then hits an official and says he didn’t notice him and that was found to be true, but people are acting like if he gets off then anyone who gets hit in the head can attack someone like Todd Bertuzzi on Steve Moore and get away with it, which would…

I think I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt because he’s been playing for a long time without any incidents of any kind. I can also see how if you notice someone at the last second you raise your hands just as a self defense move without noticing it. Like i said he could be full of shit, but either way the whole…

look, i’m not arguing whether or not he tried to hit him, he thought it was another player, or if he couldn’t see until the last second. My point is that you guys are misunderstanding his defense which is that he suffered a concussion and was unable to notice the official and collided with him accidentally. Now if…

well an intent to hit anyone wouldn’t hold weight for that matter because he’s claiming he didn’t intend to hit anyone, instead saying it was an accidental collision. Whether or not he is full of shit is another story, but him saying he suffered a concussion, didn’t notice anyone was there and it was an accidental…

first off go on youtube and look at wideman’s hit and any other cross check and tell me if they look the same. second, i say it’s not a typical cross check because his stick is almost vertical at the time of the hit, not horizontally like a typical cross check

you’re missing the point of his entire defense since his claim is that he suffered a concussion and didn’t notice the official and the hit was without intent.

this is why people just stream illegally. Quality is inferior but it’s free and besides something crazy like the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight you can get any event

well if it was a crime he’d be charged with battery, so, you are the stupid one

nope, I don’t know where you’re getting that from. I’m starting to think you’re just really stupid.

well your argument doesn’t matter because you’re not in the nhl. I’ll take Wideman’s word over yours since he’s played for over a decade with no incidents of poor behavior, and since he has the backing on his front office, and plenty of others around the league

That’s not what I’m arguing here. Wideman is saying he suffered a concussion, was woozy and out of it, and didn’t notice the ref. His defense holds no water if the attack is intentional regardless of the concussion he suffered. The bertuzzi incident is a poor comparison because no one could ever possibly make the…

No, that’s not what i mean. If his defense is that he was woozy and didn’t notice the official and the suspension is for an intentional attack on an official with intent to injure, then the concussion argument from wideman could not be used for a possible future attack by a player (like a bertuzzi-esque attack) on…

idk man that really doesn’t strike me as a typical cross check. if he was really trying to lay the guy out, that official probably isn’t getting up. we can argue the intent all night but neither of us know for sure, i just didn’t agree that it sets a dangerous precedent. I also think the nhl is covering their bases…

i think he could be trying to avoid the ref at the end and his hands come up as a sort of self defense reflex, and if you watch closely he tries to side step the official just before contact is made. It is difficult to tell if he sees the ref simply because the camera is at his back and we can’t see where he is looking

no because bertuzzi’s hit was in retaliation to a hit on markus naslund and there was clear intent and there could not be an argument made that he accidentally collided with Moore

But it isn’t dangerous to factor in that he just had his head smacked against the boards 5 seconds prior to the incident, that’s just using common sense and reasoning to make a decision on a possible punishment. The concussion argument isn’t that he got hit in the head and, due to the concussion, flew into a fit of…

I dont know about that Bom