if you look at their electric offerings you will see a curve like that.  their legacy models dont matter. 

Now let’s see if Tesla turns into a Microsoft (still successful) or a Palm/Blackberry (lol) ...

From a non-investor standpoint, the sales numbers and growth looks fine. Try any other car maker and you probably won’t see a growth curve like this.

Yup, it is happening in real time. CL ad for a just delivered Model Y and screenshot of one in inventory for immediate delivery in the same area.

For real, Tesla had a 10 year lead on EVERYONE, but in the last 3 years that same EVERYONE caught up and surpassed them

In the not too distant future Tesla is going to be a case study on wasting a head start.

I mean, Elon aside, their lineup is starting to feel stale, there’s very little development happening that I can tell. No announcements of new models or model updates, Obvious issues getting around production hurdles, meanwhile, manufacturers are beginning to release actual interesting BEVs that people might be more…

Everything I saw from last year stated the middle row was not removable. Has that changed? Multiple sources state the seats “fold flat” when pair with a height adjustable rear cargo floor to raise up to the folded seat height as well as the fact the second row is not remote. This is the first place I've seen it…

My now retired boss bought himself a Ford F250 King Ranch as a retirement present so he can haul his boat to and from the marina twice a year.

You do have a point... but I still think, as a mere commoner, that luxury should represent high quality, ageless design, and scarcity. None of those attributes can be used to describe Tesla.

The Mercedes-Benz GLE350. The GLE350 which is a pretty big vehicle available with a 3rd row of seats, is powered by a 2.0l 4 cylinder churning out 255hp. The interior is vinyl. Half of the owners polish their turd with the “AMG Line” exterior. They’re clad in ugly black plastic and have as many fake air intakes and…

Infinity QX80. Every time I see one I think “But why though?”. Nothing has changed on this aging dinosaur since 2011 other than the price.

Every time I hear them referred to as a luxury brand it pisses me off. They aren’t luxurious, just expensive.

Jeep. All we own, we owe.

Tesla.  You will never convince me that those cars are luxury.  Panel gaps I can see through, horrible interiors, “leather” that is just nasty, seats that suck, etc etc etc.

It’s already been said a few different ways but:

When I lived in Upstate NY, pick up trucks and (specifically) Cadillac Escalades were in the ditch more often then not.  They’d blow by you on the highway in a white out like they were invincible. 

Anything 4wd with all-seasons.

Genuinely curious about this “no guard rail” situation and where exactly the car (traveling southbound) went off the cliff.

I have the bad feeling this may have been intentional