Agree. OUAT lost me. Grimm & Lost Girl are far more enjoyable, and neither has an annoying, stupid little kid almost designed to chase viewers away.

Niche show? Did I hear someone say Chuck?

And so we get our requisite 2 minutes of mythology per every 5 episodes tonight. Just enough to wonder why they bother.

Did anyone else enjoy the banter between Walter & Fauxlivia as much as I did? That was the real highlight of the show for me, not to take anything away from Nicole. I'm not a huge fan of Fauxlivia, what with the hair & the cold demeanor, but I really really loved this side of her.

I thought/hoped it was Gannicus rather than Ashur. I've avoided looking to see if indeed Gannicus will return, so perhaps my hopes are in vain.

But you forgot A Gifted Man! If it's even on tonight.

Cassie's been living alone now for weeks! No parental supervision = black magic mischief.

Or to say it in a different way — why can't these kids ever have any fun? Their lives are a total drag. The only semi-fun thing they did was that awful birthday party, which hardly counts, which in itself is saying something.

911 is a joke

Ha ha. Jake's face is super huge, especially that anvil hiding under his chin. He looks like Gheorghe Muresan's prettier little brother. Maybe one day they'll give him a personality to go along with the chin.

Right on the money — Cassie does a good black magician, Adam is a lame douche, I forgot Natasha was Faye's mom, or that she even had a mom, and it would be far more interesting if they didn't kill off every decent villain in one episode.

The only thing I don't buy is Stefan suddenly pronouncing his love for Elena. That became unburied from his dark ripper soul rather too quickly. Seems more like a rush because it dovetails nicely with the other plot developments, rather than a natural turn of events.

I think you are now officially into Pearl Jam.

@avclub-bc3e14e2ab565f7787d753233df681d1:disqus Well, when you put it like that…

@avclub-db0c35ce2663c0e8c4b3f38642a49748:disqus …or without some significant portion of the audience groaning

Is Siobhan really looking for evidence of Andrew's book-fiddling? I thought she's just using that as an excuse to get inside his books so she can steal from him. But right there is a big problem with this show. Stuff like this is hardly made clear. Only tonight do we learn definitively that the best character on the…

I usually love this show, but tonight stretched the bounds of credulity, even in this show's own universe. The dinner scenes were excruciating (and not in a good way,) the Peter we know would've locked down his wife as soon as he realized there was a dangerous criminal two houses down, and Neal's courting of Werewolf…

He was more crushed by the weight of the war in BoB, rather than a psychopath. Here he's straight up, well, something entertainingly crazy. The above comment about his smile not reaching his eyes says it perfectly. He is unable to feel empathy. It begs the question of how he has a son.

Just watch Whitechapel the TV show, 1st series. No need to bother with the books.

Just watch Whitechapel the TV show, 1st series. No need to bother with the books.