I dont want to say it’ll never happen, but it certainly wont happen in the next 5-10 years.
They wont walk back all that investment in factories,skills and brand value. And licensing their knowledge? That isnt worth much really.
Anyone can build a decent EV without tesla’s electronics/motor designs.Anyone can build a…

Patience grasshopper. Tesla is a $10billion car company masquerading temporarily as something it will never be. 

Because Jobs was his boss. He would would been Musk’s boss. Entirely different. 

I feel this is Musk’s dream:

I’m not convinced that Tesla will be a car manufacturer long term. I see them moving towards being a technology company. They license the battery, software, and hardware to car manufacturers and let them do the “building cars is hard” thing.

It seems to me that Apple+Tesla would have a market valuation significantly lower than the sum of Apple and Tesla as independent entities.

Noted, he’s only telling this story because of the rumors of Apple making an electric car. He’s trying to push the narrative that Apple is regretting the mistake they made by not buying up Tesla for “cheap” and is coming to the show late and with desperation. Anything to bump up those loses after hitting the S&P 500

Apple might have been interested in buying Tesla, but Tim Cook sure wasn’t interested in buying Elon Musk.

“Full Self-Driving” and “pay extra attention to the road” and “do not become complacent” are all there in that first paragraph on the screen and they are statements in conflict with one another. You shouldn’t be able to call something full self-driving if you immediately have to say to pay extra attention to the road…

You’re completely missing the point. It’s great you use the L2 system well and responisbly! Fantastic! That’s great. But the system is being marketed as more than it is, and the need to be vigilant is consistently downplayed. Tesla’s own video shows hands off the wheel. Failover/handoff can’t just be assumed away. If…

Oh, I’ve been in plenty of engineering autonomous prototypes. The tech is not the problem here. I am excited about the tech. It’s humans. We’re not wired to be in systems that do 90% of the work while simultaneously being ready to take over at any moment. Again, this is not just me saying this--there’s decades of…

The site is for people that enjoy driving. The idea of a self driving system, that doesn’t work, is completely unsafe and promotes lazy shitty driving habits goes against every part of my being. Also worth mentioning, Elon is a fucking twat. There are hundreds of Tesla fan boy sites on the internet, go slob on Elons…

Torch is one of the best writers on Jalopnik. There is good reason to be skeptical. His point is that calling a system “full self-driving” when it isn’t actually fully self driving is dangerous. It’s an advance drivers aid. Really advance. Torch didn’t dispute that. Kudos to Tesla and what they’ve achieved. Hoorah! It…

Do current customers think they’ll get Level 4/5 eventually? Most people in the industry (outside of Tesla) argue that the hardware is incapable of this due to simple, obvious things like sensor redundancy and cleaning.

Whatever man. There are major issues with it and it needs to be taken with skepticism. We are years away from it. The morons driving Telsas have proven it. You don’t like it then don’t hang around. 

It’s written as if the people who choose to buy the FSD option are somehow tricked about what they’re getting. Nobody who pays for this option today thinks it’s feature complete yet.

The currently technology sucks. It’s fine for essentially adaptive cruise control, but I’d never trust it to actually drive itself. Hell I’ve never even used Smart Summon in an empty parking lot. Source: Model 3 owner.

Here’s the test: Put Mrs. Musk, and their baby, in a car with FSD. In the passenger seat, out on a real California highway, in traffic. And see how Elon feels about that. Chances are, if they do it for any length of time, Grimes and X Æ A-12 might be the subjects of a lovely obituary.

He called for the military revision of the election after he got the pardon. A A prez pardon is not a forever get out of jail free card.