I’m so in love with YNAB too and have converted at least half a dozen friends. It's been life changing and my savings have soared.

Another YNAB fan here. We got out of several thousand dollars in CC debt and put over $10K in savings since drinking the Kool-aid. I think it’s important to remember that a lot of people might start to track their money when they’re trying to get out of debt, but it’s just as important to keep doing that afterwards.

I’m a YNABer so I obviously track all of my expenses as it’s part of the system. The app/desktop software makes it so easy to do. It’s not as simple as Mint since Mint sucks in your account info automatically, but I like being forced to reconcile my accounts by hand once a week or bi-weekly. It makes sure that I am…

Weird. When I’m in a negative mood, I’m definitely not more motivated to work, nor more polite & attentive to others.

Naw, girl I've got your back. As a young woman, I too was bedframeless for a time. It was a time of mayhem and carelessness. I spent more money on booze and entertainment and partying than I did on situating myself in any way. I was having fun and I had no intention of building a life with someone else, at all. When…

Wife and I never had anything beyond the "cheap" steel frames (never a headboard). Didn't prevent us from having two kids and a happy marriage. :)

With no sheets on it, or the fitted sheet all jacked up. No thanks.

Because it's proper adulting.

It shows that you give a shit about making the space you live in look at least minimally pleasant, which is something that matters to someone who may be thinking about you as a person who she'd want to live with a few years down the line. Sure, it's an arbitrary cultural norm, but there is a correlation between guys…

I agree with the bedding thing as well. I have actually said to a guy "You are 27 years old, get a bed frame". To me, it's just a small sign of being grown up and put together. I do my best to make sure my apartment is together, and the person I'm seeing should do the same. To me, it's a sign of taking pride in your…

I just want blatant clarification. A hidden steel frame with a box spring and mattress counts, right?

100% agreed. I met my husband on OKCupid, and I completely ignored the men messaging me. Granted, it's not like the men messaging me were honestly attempting to hit on me. All their messages felt like trolling (using reddit pickup lines, copy/pastes, negging) or were straight-up sleazy dick pics. Ladies have to be…

I certainly didn't intend to harass anyone. I legitimately wanted to know why people care. Cynthia here has been helpful.

Ok. It's a little odd, but at least you have internal logic supporting this.

Dear Dudes,

Spend the time you are now using harassing women about their dating preferences on the internet buying a fucking bedframe.

I'm with you. My previous boyfriend had the no frame thing going on and it was annoying as hell. Everything else in his apartment was fine, he just refused to get a frame. There's just something about swinging your legs over and just popping up—I don't want to do basically squats every time I have to get up.

Fair enough. I put my box spring on my carpet before I had a chance to get it dirty, but I wouldn't necessarily want my face really close to the ground if it itself was dirty (nor would I expect a girl to want to sleep over in that situation).

nah, it's still good on this side, just different. but at least make sure you have a bed frame

tea's always good too, "coffee" is just shorthand for "lets hang out in public during the day for about 30 minutes" whereas drinks are shorthand for "you don't seem like a murderer but I'd still prefer to meet up close to daylight and also get a little drunk"