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I don't play many RPGs so I can't recommend much there. I keep hearing that Persona 4 Golden is fantastic so there's that. Action RPGish games like Soul Sacrifice and Toukiden might be good options. There's a Y's game and a Tales game that I've seen positive responses to as well.

I can see a $50 drop in the next few years as manufacturing costs go down. If it doesn't go down, then I might not get one. Gaming time is at a premium for me anyway and will only get tighter as my little one gets older so if the system never provides a strong enough value proposition for me then I may pass on it

You say from your perspective which is absolute truth and binding to all gamers.

For sure. I mention that I'd want one at a lower price and it seems like people think I'm saying the system is utter garbage and no one should pay the ridiculous price Nintendo has the balls to charge people. I think the Wii U is a great system, I'm just in no rush to get one. Fanboys be crazy, yo.

I find as life gets more busy - especially with becoming a dad last year - that my free gaming time is dwindling. I really only have time for one, maybe two active systems so a Wii U as a third system is low priority. What a horrible problem though, having tons of great games to play.

What kind of games do you like?

Yeah, that's why I really try and think through these kinds of purchasing decisions (not saying you don't btw). I don't have a ton of time for games so even though I haven't played my PS4 a huge amount since launch, I've really enjoyed it since it still has taken up a lot of what gaming time I do have.

I do feel like a refurb Wii U at $150 in few years with Zelda already out would probably be worth it. I feel as though Nintendo lost a few points with me due to how they ran their business during the Wii's time. Nothing irreparable but since I like a lot of third party content, Wii U is a low priority for me.

Yup, I totally agree. If I had the time and money to maintain a serious gaming rig, I'd likely consider going PC with a PS4 for exclusives. Since that's not really where I'm at, I'll stick with my PS4 and Vita - which I both love. You're right, this E3 showed that it is a great time to be a gamer (even if the rest

I'm pretty sure the price will go down over the system's life. The Wii launched at $250 and you can get one for $99 now. It will get cheaper down the line and when it is, I will be more likely to seriously consider getting one.

It's one of those mileage may vary situations. I would hesitate to buy a set-top console but that being said, I did buy a barely used Vita via Kjiji and have had zero problems with it.

If there's a $200 refurb now, I can see there being a $150 refurb in 2-3 years. I'm in no hurry.

The rest of this year will on PS4 be Last of Us, Destiny, Assassin's Creed and Dragon Age. On Vita there's Rogue Legacy and Hotline Miami 2 and maybe Freedom Wars. I don't have a ton of time for games anyway since most of my free time is spent chasing a toddler around my house. That's really why I can wait for a

It's about value to me. If I buy a Wii U it will be a third system solely for exclusives. For the amount I will use it, $200 is borderline too much. I'm in no rush so if I can get one for cheaper in a couple years, that's more sense to me as a consumer. I'm not generalizing and saying a Wii U isn't worth $200, I'm

I think it will be the other way around. I think games will stay the same and the system price will go down. You can buy a new Wii for less than what it launched at.

I've checked Kijiji every once and a while but I'm always leary of console purchases from strangers. That being said, $150 isn't too bad. I like that Nintendo has refurbs but I'm just in no rush to buy one.

If there's a $200 refurb now and the price of the Wii U drops within the next 2-3 years, is it not reasonable to expect a drop in the refurb price as well?

I think you're right. I'm in no rush to get one though. I'm thinking in the next couple years range so I can wait for a lower price down the line.

I'm not saying that I want Nintendo to drop the cost to some crazy rock-bottom price. I'm saying that given that there's a $200 refurb now, it's not out of the question for the price to drop $50 over the next 2-3 years.

If I can get a $200 refurb now, I don't think a $150 refurb in two years is not out of the question.