calling an LCS/SSC “basically a USCG cutter in Navy gray” is a bit of a stretch unless you meant it in the context of similar missions (littoral waters patrol). The mistake that the dipshits who run the Navy made was buying their own special design instead of the Coast Guards National Security Cutter (particularly…

There have been other posts about air force parity. While Russia may not be able to match the US in building new airframes, they will match the US in technology, or anti-technology, eventually - perhaps less than a decade. Putin is playing his cards one president at a time. His best case scenario is that Hillary…

yeah, I’ll give you Kennedy. Nope on Clinton. I don’t consider Bill’s half dozen cruise missile launches as anything other than a knee jerk reaction.

well, gee thanks for insulting my intelligence because I disagree with the way you spin the argument.

shoulda sung...

If we could turn back time to the 600 ship Navy...

anyone ever wonder how ISIS is/was able to take so much territory, especially in Syria, without an air force?

Nismo, if you chart this, I wanna see it. It’ll be a Venn diagram with so many overlapping circles it’ll look like the page had a bucket of paint dropped on it.

Based on your and Buzz’s exchanges, you seem to be arguing capability whereas Buzz is arguing intent. To be sure, there is probably an F-22 orbiting somewhere close by that could put a missile up a Su-30SM’s ass if they took a shot at a UAV. That’s capability.

Eric, good link. I like the simulation. Yeah, if an F-35 gets to fight the way it was designed, I agree, the bad guys are a big disadvantage.

Hey, maybe Canada will buy the balance of the LCS or SSC build plan and the US can spend that money on real warships.

can you cite articles where the F-35 beat an F-15 or F-16 or F-22? Only article that I’ve seen is the one where the F-16 had two wing tanks on and still out flew the F-35.

a point made earlier in the thread was that stealth does work well in the intercept mode if you can intercept the bad guys, launch your missiles, and move away before the guys even know you’re there.

Wasn’t there a theme song to this?

They seem far more competent in almost everything they do.

yep, no question that the leftover tourist crap would probably fill a barge.

The BBs were updated and brought back into service as a part of Reagan’s 1980’s Navy build-up. After the Cold War was “over”, the Navy wanted to deactivate them. Congress and the Navy went back and forth, deactivating two and then deactivating all four with the provision that the Iowa’s could be used as maritime…

Actually all four Iowa-class BBs could be recalled to active duty. Congress has told the Navy Department that the ships can be loaned out for historical displays but that no changes to the ships that impact its ability to fight can be made.

Tyler.

You seem to think they will be shy to shoot when clearly they just did.