Lol, sorry for the snark. I have to defend Celine on a regular basis, so now I just assume people are being jerks :P

Well, everyone's got their talents. I guess she'll have to settle for being one of the best singers in the world.

Yep, same goes for Celine Dion. Big show with great backers, but she doesn't do a tremendous amount of moving because, well, she's belting the shit out of those songs several times a week.

Nope, plenty of Christians suck too. Every group has assholes. I hope you filed an HR complaint against your boss.

I don't think for a second that the daycare workers intentionally left the kid behind, but you've got to follow procedures if a parent is that late. It sounds like procedures weren't followed, or people weren't paying close enough attention to which kids had been collected by their parents. Either way, it's a doozy of…

Agreed. So what if she used the extra time to have a nap? Parents just need to sleep sometimes. It's really unfortunate that she overslept, but the clear issue here is that the people charged with taking care of the child didn't do so.

I don't think athiests ave the corner on the market either. I'm firmly in the camp of "assholes exist everywhere."

Geez, if you have a CD out, that could cost you millions at this point. You better hope you didn't borrow a DVD 10 years ago.

I take issue with the idea that religious adults are so because they've been brainwashed (a word that is inherently shitting on someone's beliefs). There are plenty of people who have been raised religious who have denounced religion, and people who have been raised without religion who have chosen it later in life.…

Of course it's not okay, and I never suggested it is. And I'm sorry that your family is on you about how you choose to raise your children - that's your family and your choice, and it's absolutely none of their business. I hope they eventually get the point and leave it alone.

I'd like to point out that most Christians are just going about their business too. You have a very vocal group on the right who are kind of ants at a picnic for everybody, but the majority of Christians understand their privilege and are not trying to infringe on anyone else's rights.

Of course it's not equivalent, and I would never suggest that it is. Christian's rights are held above others in the US, and that's completely insane. I hope you can appreciate that I'm not trying to say "woe is me" or put bad things that happen to me above bad things that happen to anyone else. I'm just talking about…

Your experiences with certain Christians absolutely suck, and I'm sorry that these incidents have happened to you. I want you to know that most of us aren't like that. Don't get me wrong: there are plenty of Christians who are jackasses who can't keep their opinions to themselves (and who have ridiculous opinions in…

That's completely fair, and what I would expect from any parent.

I completely agree. The vocal Christian right in the US are completely nuts. It infuriates me too, as someone who is almost guilty by association.

Fair point. In Canada it's a little less pronounced because religion isn't as ingrained as it is the US, so it's more of a 'live and let live' attitude up here. I imagine in the States it is incredibly annoying to be inundated constantly with Bible-thumping politicians.

Nobody would expect you to raise your children as Christian - that's the point. In general, very religious people would like it if their kids/grandkids were raised in their religion of choice. Having an athiest marry into the family puts that at risk, which can be a very scary proposition for a lot of people. I'm not…

Hey man, both sides could use some PR work. I spend more time headdesking over Christians than I do about athiests. I understand why people get so intense sometimes, because it's incredibly frustrating to constantly be browbeaten.

I can't speak for your experiences, and I'm sorry that you've had bad ones. I'm from Canada where being athiest isn't exactly unheard of, so I definitely have a different perspective than you do. That said, I want to be able to have these conversations without having it devolve. I'm not trying to antagonize or make…

I'm sorry that you feel you can't talk about your beliefs without being jumped on. I know it sucks. I'm not coming after you, so please do me the same courtesy and save the 'go jump' crap for someone else.