Ironically enough this will probably only make the problem of settlements worse.

Yeah, I wonder why a state which regularly denies Gazan women suffering from breast cancer the ability to leave Gaza to seek life-saving treatment or which has tortured thousands of Palestinian female civilians including the use of rape might be accused of mistreating women. Or why a state which regularly spies on…

Yes, it’s the inability to see from the other person’s POV even the tiniest little bit that’s so frustrating.

...give Pals full citizenship and they’ll fuck their way to a solution.

I would be interested to see how a “fighting words defense” would go over in this instance. My gut says that it still wouldn’t work but who knows.

Yes, although this is incorrect in saying that it just means the government can’t arrest you... This makes it seem like a public library can tell a pro-choice group that it isn’t allowed to use one of their meeting rooms because the library board is very conservative and finds it inappropriate. Or it makes it seem…

If you know anything about the history of the Middle East, specifically the British involvement in it, you would know the significance of the Mossadegh....a inevitable confrontation between the U.K. and Iran that was CLEARLY foreseeable during the mid-late 1940s. So please, don’t try and confuse the issue here by…

None of that horseshit. US support for Israel increases our risk of terrorism

The 14th Amendment protects everyone from state and local governments as well.

“People who tend to be Pro-Palestinian can’t admit to any Anti-Semitism within their ranks because they don’t want to be associated with it because they think it tarnishes the whole of their message.”

Actually, the BDS movement has been proactive about weeding out anti-semites looking for an excuse for their bigotry.

“but so much of the BDS and Palestinian Solidarity movement is tied up in crazy conspiracy theories and legitimate anti-semitism.”

You’re going to need to provide examples because I call bullshit.

“However, so much of what I hear calls for what is essentially the complete dismantling of Israel as a country, that it’s difficult to have any kind of nuanced conversation.”

How so? Do you mean because activists insist that the victims of ethnic cleansing have a right to return to their homeland and that ethnic…

You’re not wrong, but I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. To adjust your analogy, imagine the constitution of Oklahoma called for the destruction of Texas, while at the same time Texas controlled the economy of Oklahoma and the movement and political exercise of its citizens, was systematically settling Texans…

Totally agreed. As a Jew myself (religiously atheist, but I still identify strongly with my Jewish heritage/culture), the conflict has been insanely hard to navigate around when speaking to people. There are many, many legitimate criticisms of the government of Israel, its policies, its military, and its treatment of…

I have absolutely no patience for people who draw a false equivalence between the subjugation of Palestinians and the perceived anti-Semitism of (some) BDS activists. Particularly when there are actual anti-Semites in the White House which neither Israel or AIPAC seem to care about.

It’s like the more reasonable you are about decrying Israel’s ongoing occupation and blockade of Palestine, the more a certain tiny band of idiots claims that reasonable disagreement with Israel is anti-Semitic.

There’s no “two-state solution”. It’s a fantasy designed to provide political cover to build more and more settlements. Building a contiguous Palestinian state was always a fantasy.

But a grasp of history and nuance is exactly what leads to the understanding that Israel is a Western settler colonial state, and that Palestinians are an oppressed people living under apartheid. That said, there are *definitely* many antisemitic voices within this conversation; they’re repellent and must be countered…

I’d invite you to dig into the history of the place - all of it. Joshua and his horn probably committed the first genocide. Ethnic cleansing all through the old testament. Current state of things can be laid squarely at the feet of the British. Fun fact: the jewish homeland post WW-2 was very close to being Argentina…

Yes turns out that the stupid reply I got was the latest incarnation of the Gawker TomatoTroll so I removed it.