Let’s set aside the motivations of the confederacy, and focus on the fact that they rebelled against the United States of America, which is treason by every definition. That’s a pretty good, simple, non-PC-based line for me.

I am quite sure the Germans do not have a Hitler monument even if it is part of their history.

Don’t forget to brush your tooth.

Moving an artifact from a public display to a museum does not erase history.

Nope they were fighting to own slaves. Knock off that revisionist bullshit right now. The constitution of the Confederacy doesnt say ONCE then whole fucking document about “states rights” but it says the right to own slaves a whole bunch of fucking times.

You lost this argument the first 5 words in your initial reply. And if you think you are original then I’ve got news for you. I grew up having to listen to a literal mountain of horse shit from people who for whatever lame reason would bend over backwards defending the confederate flag at all costs though historical…

Removing state-sponsored symbols praising the acts of people who fought to maintain slavery is not equivalent to erasing history. We still know what happened during the Civil War. Nobody is taking a red pen to the historical record. We’re simply saying that maybe it’s best if black people (not to mention anybody who’s…

The fact that a losing rebellion centered around slavery is still inspiring people in 2016 to torch someone’s lambo just for taking a job sort of proves the need.

Seems like “fighting for a different country for the right to own humans as slaves” is a pretty good place to draw the line.

What’s out of hand about a 90k GS-F? That’s the price of a loaded 5 series, and much less than an M5.

I don’t think they think that, I think they want a fast, comfortable, reliable car that can fit multiple people in it and still handle itself well occasionally when the situation calls for it.

This is Jalopnik, every car should be a Miata, don’t you know? Anything that’s not a Miata is stupid and nobody should drive a car that isn’t a Miata. Miata.

It’s not about financially supporting your employer. It’s about perspective. Ford didn’t pay for your housing and education, your father did. I’ve worked for dealers that told me I’d be fired if I bought a vehicle from a competitor. So far none have ever put their money where their mouth is on that one. This whole…

One thing a solid argument always contains is the phrase “butt-hurt”

you say that until you drive one of these, seriously they are fucking rockets 2 hands on the steering wheel feels much more comfortable sometimes. i like a manual for lightweight low horsepower cars, an auto is my choice for anything with the power to weight ratio these have

LOL - “A couple of 100ths of a second faster than a manual!” - try .2 seconds in the quarter mile with a good driver in the Porsche’s case. That’s VERY significant considering the trap speeds we are talking (many car lengths). Over the course of a lap? Add it up.

Oh, so that makes... four people? It’s settled then.

Translation: I buy cars to impress parking valets

I have no doubt your analysis is absolutely correct. Look at the timing of this in relation to the shipping of radioactive material to Russia for safe-keeping. One loss of face here, one saving of face there. It’s so childish it makes you want to scream when educated adults are making these decisions...

Really good call from the commander of the Truman on this one. Although the rocket landed less than a mile away, hotter heads have, in the past, led to awful decisions.