Nail has been hit on head. Good power, price, reliable and I’d long run out of driving skill before my car runs out of mechanical performance anywhere on a course.

Yep, that’s what I’m thinking, too. I know the Lexus IS F CCS-R had some extra goodies at the time, which *could* have came over to a higher performance model (actually, they may have in Japan, I’d have to google it), but I guess it depends how serious Lexus plans to get with this car.

The real question is why is he at-all surprised that a huge boat like the Taurus differs so much from an RX-8? Just looking at the two, one could tell they serve entirely different purposes.

But the F cars have more than just a power bump.

It’s going to vary by track and demand on the car, but here is a link: http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-racing-t…

Not only that, but it depends on the type of manual the car receives. People on here act like all manuals are created equally, when in reality, some are genuinely not that great or were thrown in as an afterthought.

That was my first thought. In 10+ years, how much of the car will resemble the vehicle which rolled off the factory floor.

“and tuning it accordingly”

I don’t know about better, but under most circumstances, it’s not the big deal people make it out to be. If a given car nails it in enough areas, FWD quite literally isn’t a deal breaker, for me. On any road, I’m infinitely more likely to reach a tire/traction limit before a mechanical/chassis one, anyway.

I wonder the same thing. The entire purpose of owning a car with keyless entry is to just keep it on your person.

If you can and do tune a car, you’re likely to see gains in any scenario, because most run conservative from the factory. In my experience, it had less to do with the cats (at least modern or hi-flowing versions), and more to do with the former.

Why would you ever want to stall, as opposed to the car downshifting and the driver correcting the situation? A good system should prevent the downsides of manual control, not replicate them.

But the exhaust isn’t fake. The exhaust tip just isn’t connected...and exhaust tips are for dressing, anyway.

It does go through the holes. Think of it as a “floating” exhaust tip. Both these and the attached kind serve the same function (aesthetics), but this allows more flexibility.

“Buying a car - any car based almost solely on the type of power source it has is just dumb.”

That’s how I feel about the “manual only” crowd.

It’s rare that I see over 1,000 stars, but here’s another.

At least two bad experiences, actually. Probably more.

*2.5 Truck didn’t use turn signal.

Self-confessions are the best type.