To translate, it will come down to various insurance statistics. Not as entertaining as the original post, but that’s what it will come down to.

Re: suing. The trial lawyers will have a few gos at the manufacturers of the systems, but they have money to fight.

When the numbers come in, and if (somewhat big if) they are substantially better than the public at large, then the trial lawyers will start to have issues.

So then the trial lawyers will sue people that…

If Tesla’s system isn’t perfect (which is impossible), your average driver won’t accept it.

But the insurance companies will look at the cost to self-drive per mile, and will have access to unprecedented amounts of information. If the claim rate on a self-driving car is better, for some threshold, then the insurance…

Sure Elon has been, uh, “most inaccurate” and “most ridiculously hyping” on AI driving, but the author makes it seem like you need a perfect human for “full autonomy.

No, you just need one that is statistically better than a reasonable driver (as in not drunk, not old, not sleepy, and not a teenager).

So to repeat,…

Well if a more compact EV drivetrain and skateboard undercarriage effectively drops the needed size of internal componentry by 50% (I’m counting on some vast improvements in battery tech), then it should enable conversions like this easily.

I’m kind of hoping that once batteries get good, compact, and cheap enough, a 200 mile range set of batteries would be, say 30-50% smaller than current Tesla technology and just a couple grand in cost. The hockey stick of battery development is basically going this way if lithium metal or other techs pan out.

That…

Gun show loophole.

Thirded. 45K? THat’s ballpark for a tesla model 3P.

And eventually major portions of the entire power grid (possibly)

Honest question, have you test driven one?

NVM, you answered it already.

Sell for a profit now, or invest to make 10x more in a few years?

What would you choose?

This is company growth 101. It isn’t even voodoo internet stock finances. Very basic stuff.

This thread is a who’s who of bicycling and EV trolls too.

“Bro you so sensitive about me joking about running you off the road.”

“OMG how dare he question the material of my truck bed”

Minivan. You want a minivan. 

Why do you think Latin American penetration is so hard?

Once EV drivetrains hockey stick to 50% of ICE drivetrain cost in about five years (or chinese EVs flood markets), then can anyone resist the price/performance? Plus you can fill up at home, Latin America gets (generally) massive amounts of sun for solar and…

St-oo-pid shorter desperately in denial about economies of scale and cost reduction curves in full swing with 10 years of both technological and scale savings to come that will make ICE engines horribly impractical.

Idiot shorter is bitter that environmental economic policies are functioning exactly as designed. 

Idiot shorter from southern california is aware of absolutely no other companies that ran for years without profits or dividends like Apple, Microsoft, or Amazon which aggressively grew their businesses over decades, and didn’t even have factories to build.

Idiot shorter of course isn’t involved in this distraction and isn’t astroturfing its existence in a desperate attempt to get the stock price to drop.

If EV batteries and drivetrains scale down prices to ultra low levels, then a lot of fun small cars might enter the price range that a lot of people drop on motorcycles/atvs/etc.

Jalopnik on Cybertruck design: its sucks and its ugly
Jalopnik on Tesla EV acceleration experience: it sucks and doesn’t make vroom sound
Jalopnik on all the Tesla Roadster: it’s vaporware oh look here’s five stories about really-vaporware EVs and FCVs startups taken at face value

I dunno, quit being assholes to the only…