Well, whenever it becomes available. 

It’s a Porsche. It’s supposed to be out of price range.

The other parts of VW groups will make the volkselecwagen

I get that self-driving is vaporware, and that BEV tech will probably be much much better that when it comes out, but when a car can self-drive you with near-zero attention required and charge itself along the way, I’m guessing that 300 limit will turn more into 500 or 600 miles.

Would you rather:
- pack a cramped…

Cars at the very bottom of the used market are probably net negative polluters/gas efficiency users (especially if there are carbon taxes figured in), and eliminating those is probably a net positive for society versus the pollution/resource cost of a new car.

BEVs aren’t there yet to be mandated, but PHEVs with…

If you’re discussing an average, something that impacts the “low end” like that will ... raise the average.

Even if you were looking at median vs mean/average, there are less examples of low price cars, so the median price will probably also go up, although perhaps not as dramatically

Deadspin rips on lots of sports personalities, but by far the most deserving of their mockery is Whitlock, you can hate/background watching FS1 highlights on PlutoTV, and they usually have his end-of-show retchworthy commentary.

I don’t know how his cohosts don’t physically assault him sometimes.

Tesla makes EVs at profit, they just are in capex and R&D for the next model constantly. All teardowns of Teslas show they have a decent profit margin to the company. You’re correct that no other company makes them at profit.

Of course you ignore carbon taxes on gasoline, which should have been phased in four decades…

I get you guys probably get money to run this stuff, but no hydrogen car story should run without a detailed explanation as to how they avoid the fundamental (as in physics and chemistry fundamental) problems with hydrogen storage, transport, extraction/hydrolysis, total energy efficiency, plus all the lifetime issues…

Petrol companies on 3: don’t care, collect money, ignore scientists in your own companies.

Hydrogen can’t be stored long term, it leaks from every vessel. Yes it has terrible energy efficiency once you budget any sort of hydrolysis (assuming carbon neutral sources, so methane is out). I doubt gas stations have the necessary equipment to safely handle hydrogen.

We soon won’t burn things to charge batteries.…

They could charge the batteries for future use while in draft.

But I think hybrid NASCAR on ovals is stupid. You get to regen brake when... a crash happens? Coming in to pit row? That’s about it. Some electric drivetrain tech will give torque, but ovals are about top speed... which is horsepower.

Sedans off lease: Ford Fusion PHEVs are the best PHEV deal last I saw. Although the trunk design sucks. 

Yes, but you’re commenting on a site whose preferred aesthetics for cars involves useless megagrills that increase drag, and demands them even on things like BEVs.

Something something design language. 

Why have comfortable non-screaming children in a car for a long trip?

I get the veneration of some degree of hard knocks tough learning for building of character, but roasting in uncomfortable back seats intentionally seems stupid.

What kids need that makes them resilient is exercise.

“PHEV? We sell those?”

- Dealerships.

How about a Tesla hit piece to go with it?

This site has no business chiding people on emissions. It is practically a GW denial hotbed.

Option to counter by expending your make it take it to block their make it take it?

Parking lot safety involves comically tight spaces, reaction times, and the like. I used to stan for all things Tesla, but at least on self-driving, there needs to be real independently tests/audits.

We’ll see! The luddite media will trump up anything remotely like “evel macheens kyllling us hoomans” story lines.…

Dumb joke, or dumb argument.

Take your pick!

The dealers will screw it up.

I’ve become convinced the #1 barrier to EV adoption in mainstream auto makers is the dealer networks, which exists to sell used cars and servicing, and hate explaining things.