I’ve driven my wife’s Outback very aggressively and I have never encountered that issue.  It’s more nimble than I expected it to be.

Except the Tesla isn’t a muscle car by definition, and literally has none of the attributes except power.  If we are going by power, then a semi truck is a muscle car....

This is how I feel.  The people complaining about it being an old platform don’t get it.

I drive an older “muscle car”, but if I were in the market for a new one, hands down I’d pick a Challenger Scat Pack. The new Camaro is ugly to me and has the visibility of a Brinks armored truck, and the Mustang, while capable, isn’t my cup of tea (I say this as a 2 time former SN95 owner). Challenger checks all the…

Bavarian Crack Pipe.  The dealer couldn’t even be bothered to make the car presentable.  If they couldn’t even do that, then what else are they neglecting?

I’m not going to change your opinion.  You do you.

I personally think that CUV’s are fugly.  Then again most newer vehicles are hideous looking to me.  I’ll stick with my sports cars.  Still get gas mileage in the low to mid 20's on the highway with a V8 and I can brake much faster than any CUV.

Sixty Five years and my life is still
Trying to get up that great big hill of hope
For a holiday destination

Sounds like your coworker jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire, all while being covered with used gear oil.

This isn’t a crack pipe.  It’s a straight up shit pipe at any price.  Flood damage with all those electronics?  Fuck. No.  Seller should take scrap price and be happy.

Plan on spending double what the seller is asking for this in the first year of ownership.  Crackpipe.

We are already starting to see the beginning of this in China. There is a lot of concern and I think this article explains it pretty well.

I get looked at like I just called someone an asshole when they ask me if they can send me a friend request, and I tell them I don’t have Facebook.

Too many are too busy viewing the world through their phones, take selfies anywhere that they can, think that taking pictures of food is cool, and are the people who go to a concert and get front row seats, only to view the entire show through their phone as they are recording it. No one’s life is that interesting…

Hard pass for me too.  I don’t want to live in the 1984 novel.

The panel gaps on this are less noticeable than an actual Tesla.

I agree, but we were being nice by saying any out of warranty instead of all.  It’s the season of giving and I’m feeling generous.  Not generous enough to put the repair shop owners daughter through college though.

I can see my kids college fund being sucked away within the first year of owning this.  Any Land Rover / Range Rover outside of warranty is a Tyrone Biggum sized crackpipe.

3rd gear: Unfortunately you can’t fix stupid.  I am amazed how some people even were able to obtain a driver’s license.  Common sense isn’t common anymore.  Karen can’t be bothered with paying attention to the driving task when she has more important things to do, like share the latest quiche recipe with her friend…