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"Are you actually upset that white people were part of Fast and Furious"

Now you're not respecting the creator's original intent.

I wouldn't want David Alan Grier to play Bond.

Presumably, since you ID's GITS as "defensible", you think The Last Airbender wasn't? If so, I'd basically agree, with the proviso that it depends on how "essentially" the nations were "Chinese, Tebetan, and Inuit". If it was a very lose adaptation of those cultures, I'd be more forgiving.
Part of the problem is, until…

Who played Brian and Sean, again?
And that there's one action franchise with a fairly diverse cast kinda disproves the "easily" bit.
But I can amend my statement just as easily: and if you include a franchise that traditionally employed exclusively white actors in doing it, that's fine.

I like how you indict nameless people for what you assume they'd do in a hypothetical situation.

Yeah, and that's bullshit- it's like we were talking about in the Marvel thread, any particular Asian can't really stand in for the whole Asian experience.
I'll also say this: representation is a laudable enough goal. I don't see anything wrong with giving an Asian filmgoer a chance to see themselves represented on…

I guess I wasn't around for those situations. And I don't really know what "that Exodus movie" was, but I assume it's some telling of the Biblical story? If so, I think that's a legit gripe, races and ethnicities and basically just "tribes" are a pretty big part of the Bible. I can't speak to the other two franchises,…

I mean, that pretty much precludes the Connery Bond movies, even…

Don't poormouth Ben Carson's chances!

If Idris Elba plays Bond, he obviously *won't* be playing a "white character". Bond will just be a black guy. He wasn't in previous movies, but he is now. Just like how he grew up poor in previous movies until he didn't, or how M was a dude until she wasn't.

I legitimately haven't seen it, and I can't really compare and contrast the two situations without, y'know, knowing what the situations are.
I mean, just earlier today, I was saying that Danny Rand's white-ness might be such an important element to the story that he should stay "white". So I'm not insensitive to that…

Yeah, not sure why I need to respect Ian Fleming's original vision so much.

You can't really indict me for what "they other people" say. Film is a visual medium; completely change how one character looks, you change a lot.

Yeah. It's not like Bond really ever goes into "deep cover". He kinda just walks into a place like he owns it, maybe puts a doohickey up to a door so he can hear what's going on on the other side of it, then fucks a lot of shit up.

When did anyone get "up in arms" about "a character that is not white is portrayed by a white person"?

I will never get tired of the mindless "No, YOU'RE the real racist!" But that says something about me, because objectively, it's a really, really boring line of argument.

I don't disagree, but Hollywood being what it is, launching a new film is a lot harder than adding a new installment to an old franchise.

Yeah, but does a Bond movie have to involve Russia anymore? They kinda put that to bed with GoldenEye.

The deeply flawed ideology of "let's tell a different story."