The 2004 Mustang Mach 1 I used to own had an odd spot for the power seat switches: On the front of the seat.

It was a pretty common thing on the 80s Fords. Every Ford and Mercury we had from that time frame had a trunk release in the glove box.

Thanks for the heads up!

Mechanical engineering design, for aftermarket companies.

That part got me too. So a used loaded Sierra is selling for more than a brand new base model? No shit Sherlock. They sky is also blue and water is wet.

That’s what drove me to buy a new Challenger instead.  It was rough waiting the 8 weeks for delivery, but it was worth it.  

I know the TrueGrid brand pavers advertise them as usable for grass parking areas.

I learned to drive in a ‘80 Mustang with the 2.3 and 3 speed automatic. THAT was the worst engine I ever drove. I would have killed a guy to get the 115 horsepower that my Jetta has.

The backseat is the reason why I started looking at Challengers in the first place. I can actually fit behind myself, and I’m 6'2" tall. I wouldn’t call it roomy with the front seat pushed that far back, but it is really made to accommodate big people in the front and adults in the back.

Objectively, that’s quite fast. But in today’s market, that’s Ecoboost Mustang performance at a 5.0 price. V8 Challengers are really heavy.

It wasn’t the bending over to buckle that was the biggest problem, it was the limited access to the car seat that was more annoying. My ‘05 Legacy GT was especially bad, the roof line and the rear facing seat ended up making a mail slot that I had to thread my kid into and then wedge myself into to reach the buckles…

But, if you want a not-very-fast, AWD coupe, this is a reasonable option. A Golf R or WRX are both superior in the AWD performance department.

Sounds like that’s not an intrinsic advantage to crossovers though - more like a consequence of current and unfortunate design trends.

What SUV do you have? Most CUVs I’ve ridden in have a fairly low floor that was just find for our toddlers to climb into.

Older doesn’t always mean outdated. The infotainment screen is the only thing that is improving dramatically over time now, and Chrysler’s U-Connect is often praised as one of the better systems out there.

I was going to suggest the Challenger R/T, it’s completely underrated in today’s market.

Also: Rooflines of modern sedans make back seats far less usable than they used to be. That sloping fastback style that is so common on non-CUVs is cutting into the rear door shape, making rear facing car seats extremely annoying on an otherwise very functional vehicle.

I believe I read that Chevy was cutting production of the Camaro due to the chip shortage too, but it wasn’t a good selling car before the pandemic either.

And Dodge sold 5,082 Challengers and 7,551 Chargers in June, and Chevy sold 943 Camaros in June. (I’m sure chip shortage and pandemic affected them all differently though).

No guarantee that it’s a proper instrumented test, but you can find the factory rated numbers in Gross and Net for 1971 Mopars. Allpar has both power figures listed for the V8s in ‘71.