Nah man, feel free to correct me, I’m not much of a Toyota historian.

FWIW - Small turbo setups like what’s found on the ecoboost trucks eliminates most, if not all, of the perceptible boost lag.

That is a fair point, 200hp was a lot in ‘85 when the top level Mustang had 118 5 years before (Seriously, the 1980 Mustang had a de-bored 4.2L V8 which didn’t make much more power than the 3.3L I6).

If it has enough power, but the power delivery sucks, then it doesn’t have enough power in the only way people actually care about.

Thirded, which goes back to my original point when these came out- a 200HP small turbo would have been fine

All youse who claim the current iteration of the GT86 doesn’t have enough power are out of your goddammed minds.

Well...  the base models were FWD...  

I could end up being wrong, but i’d take this with HUGE grain of salt. TNGA isn’t setup to be rear drive in this size class and using TNGA - K seems like it would be pretty expensive to scale down. One of the reasons the 86 was cost effective was because Subaru had a chassis that was setup for rear drive bias.

Don’t pull thru if you’re stopping to shop at Costco, you’re only making it more difficult to load your 24 pack of pianos in the hatch.

More specifically, it is Wall Street. Investors want automakers to make the maximum profits, so less profitable entry level cars are going away. A first-time car buyer generally can’t afford a $45,000 pickup truck.

It found that millennials, as we reach our family formation years, are getting our driver’s licenses at the highest rate in 40 years.

There’s a reason there are no others in the market. They all faile because nobody buys theme. Sport oriented models in general are doing terrible overall, let alone wagons.

This is a cheap and disingenuous argument. You could say that of literally any program because there is always somebody richer than any given random person. “The mortgage interest deduction is a gut punch to the poor!!!”

That’s my dad’s old farm truck. Before I took that picture, it hasn’t left the farm in over 15 years. After I took that picture, I had it up to 70 on the highway.

you buy a classic muscle car with unassisted drum brakes, you will die sometime during the first weekend of ownership. I am not kidding.

That would be some great advertising.  Too bad Buick isn’t brave enough to try it.

Absolutely.

Even though it got attention in the wagon circles, it didn’t seem to get a lot of love there. It was just another “Wagonish crossover” to most people here.

Don’t just go after the grandpas, you can extend it to a sort of “Maybe grandpa liked them for a reason” type of campaign.

Frankly, I don’t understand why Buick even exists anymore. In the States, at least. They will simply never get out from under the “Grandpa’s Car” rep.