I feel like the best answer to all this is just “resist the temptation leave your car for an arctic hike,” barring extenuating circumstances i.e. immediate danger inside said car.

IMO Roger did more to wreck GM than any one person in its history, a true bean counters bean counter.

+plus one for your first sentence, the car biz in a nut shell.

Splitting a million sales between 2 brands makes a lot more $ sense than splitting 50k in sales.

I can come up with 1.2 million of them....

Well played sir.

I’d much rather trust a heavy car with 70s tech, than a light car with 70s tech, the Ford Pinto come to mind. As I said, good engineering goes a long way to making a light vehicle safer, that’s why a modern small call IS better than a 70's large car. Weather conditions are in the hands of the driver, from my…

IMO you are very wrong on this. Good engineering can do a lot to protect occupants in a crash but that 5500lb SUV will use up your 5 stars its 2 stars, then punt your 2500lb car into the next county.

A 2wd pick up (standard cab 8" bed is the best) with snows and a couple hundred pounds in back is a great winter beater and a good year round parts hauler. The parts that are needed keep them running are cheap and easy to come by, extra snow clearance is a bonus too.

I agree it’s a BS play Jason, the price tag looks just as suspect to me also. Compare it to the price and MPG of a small motor cycle from any company with a proven track record and there’s no way the numbers work. Unless of course they sourced a smoken’ deal for an unlimited supply of forged unobtianium, then you…

A guy I work with had a piece of re-bar come up through the floor and seat of his and impaled him, stuff through the windshield isn’t the only thing to worry about. :0

Got you covered, Robert Hienlein’s “The number of the beast” That first trip to the caver is still a bitch though.

LMAO, sooooo true. By the time you put in safety regs add in a good helping of aero and fit them around people and hard parts there’s a very small window of space for styling.

It could have had production hinges, they just don’t look as nice as billet aluminum. ; )

All of the work , design and build, was done on the Avista was done in Detroit.

They’re right up there with weathermen. :)

3rd gear: I worked on it, I’m gonna be there, you’re gonna be suprised, and I’m not sayin’ anything. :p

Ok, I will agree that a 1908 Model T getting 13-21 mpg is both possible and factual. That said a Model T was THE LOW COST ECONOMY CAR of its day, there were many other types/models of cars and trucks on the road in 1908. So while the fact of a Model T getting 13-21 mpg may be factually true, the context is a lie. That…

In other words...................................................................................A Golf cart. :)

No, Bernie is not right. I can’t think of any current regular production “car” off the top of my head that doesn’t do much better than that. Now if instead of EPA testing methods or the way people actually drive cars today, you used Model T acceleration rates and top speed as a testing model most CUVs, SUVs and Trucks…