“It’s almost like humans are complex”

Finally, a reply that actually gets it! I’ve dismissed all the others because they’re just snarky, belittling attacks that come from a place of insecurity and fear and I don’t respect those comments.

no he isnt. hes not building jack shit. he wants things to be built so he hires people to do it. he can outline his vision but he cant execute it. i bet you think steve jobs invented the iphone and all the other bs apple has. jobs was good at packaging and selling ideas. not engineering. he didnt have any degree…

Sure, he gets to sit there while Munro sucks up to him. Shameless.

A “professional engineer” (vs. “engineer”) is also a licensed profession. Most of the US doesn’t seem to care about this distinction, however.

The guy making stuff in the shop is a technician. He might be more competent and have a wider knowledge base than the engineer who is giving him a design to build, but he’s still a tech.

While the battle over the right to use the title of “engineer” vs. “professional engineer” was waged in places like Oregon (https://ij.org/press-release/oregon-engineer-wins-traffic-light-timing-lawsuit/), in this case Musk does not even have an engineering degree or work in an engineering capacity, and should not be…

An engineer has the proper training/licensing/bonding/etc to understand how to build and fix things so that they don’t kill people.  Imagine if amateur “engineers” built public bridges or skyscrapers, it’s not the same.  Building cars is much the same, if you don’t have licensed, insured engineers who have the proper…

You don’t think a PE is relevant to car design where there is literally structural engineering and safety?

We’re talking first and foremost about safety and structural engineering. Which is more than 1% of engineering. There are LITERAL LEGAL DEFINITIONS OF ENGINEERING.

How many tens of thousands of cars has Tesla sold? You’re buying into PR spin.

Solving technical problems isn’t his forte though.

I commented “Good Blog.,” you then went on a ‘well, actually’ tirade.

That’s...not how that works. There is a difference between having a process where “everyone can say no” and having a process that makes sure everyone is on the same page. Risk assumption comes from leadership, not engineering staff.

In the interview, Munro states that the door is CF, but the beam is steel and that BMW figured it out somehow, but no one explains how. They identified scientifically how something a problem, but they disregarded how another company solved it. 

“As long as you can keep your customers, by the third or fourth cycle your products are way better than the GMs of the world.”

Chief Engineers typically are a fully degreed Engineer (usually MS or Ph.D), who are responsible for a team of fully degreed engineers, and who have ultimate responsibility for engineering decisions on a project. It’s definitely not a managerial term.

Sure, understood. And I guess BMW managed to solve this problem for the i3.

This quote is pretty shocking tbh:

“The organizational structure errors, they manifest themselves in the product,” he begins. “We’ve got probably the best material science team in the world at Tesla. Engineers would ask what’s the best material for this purpose...and they got like 50 different answers. And they’re all…

...the California-based engineer-CEO...