GAHH you beat me to the V8 Genesis recco by like ONE minute. Good on you!

You, sir... will be awarded one star for remembering that this 303hp FWD insanity existed.

Tom, David and José - y’all beat me to the punch with yours. So I’ll submit for the sleeper category: the final generation Hyundai Genesis sedan with the 5.0 V8. 420hp, 5 seconds to 60 and a quieter interior while cruising at 70mph than the competition from Stuttgart.

FRIGGING ^THIS^

Uh, okay so full ownership here, I am being pedantic. But why y’all got a picture of Tucsons for a Santa Fe recall?

This kind of response infuriates me to no end.

Neutral: no joke, about 6 months ago I was so, so close to pulling the trigger on an F-Pace 20D. It’s the weirdest, best handling, handsomest vehicle in it’s segment, full stop. But the dealer just couldn’t get even close to competitive on the trade-in for my car. If they had, I would have happily paid their asking…

At the risk of sounding pedantic and redundant, there’s just one tiiiiny problem with this argument: torque.

Yeaaah but that’s an “unloaded” figure.

Right?? All those pickups and their 280hp diesel four cylinders...

Two counter points...

GTI owner with 80k driven-hard miles without a single hiccup over 10 years.

Named after a Saturn coupe. Makes “10,500 lb-ft or torque.”

Wait, what? Slovakian? What am I missing?

My dude... THIS.

Bless you for doing the people’s work and TRYING to remind MINI who they once built cars for.

But that’s the best part about having opinions, Dolsh!

Hahah okay, okay. Sure thing. WHAT was I thinking having personal preferences.

For sure, for sure.

Except as enthusiasts and arguably a massive part of the endorsement-bestowing force that recommends the car companies that we love to the masses that will BUY the volume selling models (see Porsche Cayenne, Panamera, Macan), we should fault them for chasing the money on an already premium priced car that’s meant to…