I own one. Can confirm, it’s an excellent car.

The people who complain about the power should just keep walking by and go get a Hemi Challenger. If you’re someone who “gets it,” you’ll really enjoy a FRZ86

Buy a Toyobaru, Stef. Do it. You know you wanna.

KGC10, R31, and R32 are all cooler Skylines anyway.

Just another example of the incompetence of governing bodies. The rest of the informed world would like a word with them:

Yeah, I know some inline-6s can be that way too (although there are also aftermarket options where they make a single header), but most people still misuse the word (at least coming from the Toyobaru community, and most import 4-banger cars)

Also, “headers” for 4cyl cars that aren’t a V-2.

When someone says “rims” when referring to “wheels.” Almost none of you are ever actually referring to rims, unless you’re one of those v-dub life stance folks rebuilding a set of BBS 3-piece wheels. #grammarnazi

This 86, with a handful of simple mods, made it brilliant and perfect in a way that I now know what my next car needs to be if I don’t get a tow vehicle instead.

Are you the same guy that brought up Scroggs in the D Street Camaro before, and then never responded to my comment about that?

Once again, Mark Scroggs is a damn alien and more likely than not would have won in whatever top contender DS car he was driving, be it Camaro, WRX, or an FRZ. You’re completely missing the…

1) Okay, I’m convinced that you don’t understand the difference between a car upgraded with aftermarket parts and the standards to which a manufacturer is held to for mass producing a vehicle that will be sold to the general public. The question isn’t about ease, it’s cost on a global production/distribution/sales…

But it’s not like this was an unintntional flaw. They tuned the torque dip in there specifically to create that same feeling and driving characteristics that everyone said they wanted from the ‘80s and ‘90s cars they loved. They basically made a brand new 240SX that you can drive off the showroom floor today, which is…

Fair enough. At least you’re one of the few who can at least comprehend where I’m coming from. Haha

“I want a thing that’s like this, but different!”

Part of the personality of those cars were the lower hp/tq figures. I think they’d be missing the mark if they had significantly more power. They didn’t give the ND a ton more power, it’s still around those same 90s power levels, but nobody is bitching about that...

You still have yet to produce any evidence or a compelling argument for the existence of this secret clause where mean and boring old man Toyota tells young hip cool kid Subaru that he can’t put a turbo or more power in his car.

How snug is that tinfoil hat on?

I know of the sales agreement, that’s a widely publicized fact. Where is this restriction to power clause that you speak of? There is absolutely zero evidence of that.

Even after you accept the fact that it is a tiny car, you can still be surprised at just how many things will not fit into it.

Whereas I’ve had the exact opposite experience with the FR-S.

A set wheels and unmounted tires? No problem. Ikea bookshelf? With ease. Two front fenders for an FR-S? You got it. My 29er…

Nice! I’m in Chicagoland, so it’s roughly the same drive. But I get most of my track time at Autobahn. Maybe I’ll see ya out there sometime, and you can take me for a ride to convince me to sell the FR-S for an M-car. ;)

I’m not an insider within either company that can give you a reason. However, I am a relatively logical person who work in automotive parts manufacturing and understands how cost and price factors into the industry.

It’s not me being a smug jerk, it’s that I’ve been through this conversation many times and it always…

Right, but what other repair costs are you going to run into with a used higher mileage E36 or E46? I’m not poo-pooing either of those, I love both generations, but the reliability of the new car with similar priced consumables is a major factor there too. Also, my front rotors are $45 and rears are $37. And tires are…

The engine actually doesn’t fit because of the location of the turbo. They could certainly reconfigure it to make something work, obviously aftermarket turbos can fit in the engine bay, but then they have to go through all that R&D, testing, and certification that you mentioned. Let alone the cost of upgrading engine…