Can you come close to fitting a full set of wheels and tires, tools/spare parts, camping gear, food, and other necessities for a full weekend at a track in a Miata? I’d say that’s pretty significant.

Without the back seats folded down, which increases cargo space by a shit ton, the Toyobaru has 6.9ft³ of cargo space.…

I definitely don’t knock faster cars. I just find it funny when people claim the Toyobaru is a shitty sports car, or doesn’t qualify as one, because they measure performance by whether or not they can beat a Camry in a street race. lol

I’ll be driving Gingerman for the first time in June, really excited for it.

1) Okay, I will concede that there is a huge variable (the driver) here that factors in. Perhaps it’s simply that the car inspires more confidence in its driver that allows me to take corners faster, and there are certainly a ton of variables at play, but it is a consistent theme for FR-Ss/BRZs (not just my…

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In comparison to a Miata it is significantly.

Without a trailer there’s no way a Miata is bringing a full set of wheels and tires, tools, camping gear, and other miscellaneous items needed for a track weekend.

Never claimed it was, just giving ya some figures. Who the fuck is buying this car for the torque anyway? If that’s your primary measure of performance then clearly this isn’t the car for you and you’ll never understand the point of it.

How about a track day car that you can commute in and also store all of your track day gear including spare wheels and tires in?

I’m not saying Miatas aren’t great (I’d love an NB track car), but for someone with only one car to pull double duty, the Miata can’t touch the practicality of the Toyobaru.

Significantly more practicality?

1) Because at a track day I can take corners faster in my FR-S than many cars with significantly more power.
2) Because consumables for the track are significantly cheaper than many of those cars with more power.
3) Because learning to drive a slow car, that requires you to beat the hell out of it keeping it in the top…

Because of several reasons requiring a long winded explanation that you’re inevitably going to dismiss, claiming that it should cost them essentially nothing to turbo the car, add 50hp, and sell it for the same price since the WRX has the same engine with a turbo.

I got 151 wtq on my stock ‘13. ;)

Solution: If the buses always stop in the right lane and create this issue, and this is consistently a problem, he should drive in the left lane.

But that would require him to not be an idiot, which he clearly is based on his question.

It’s what a lot of the ‘70s, ‘80s, and ‘90s Japanese cars we idolized were actually like. Not much power in the low-end, so you had to wring them out and keep the revs in the top end to hustle the car around. Sure you can eliminate the torque dip, and the car will be faster and fun... but it’ll be fun in a different…

Okay, I will. :)

I suppose it depends on where you live. I’m about 30min outside of Chicago and hardly a day goes by that I don’t see at least one other FR-S, BRZ, or 86. Hell, since 2012 104,475 FR-Ss, BRZs, and 86s have been sold in the U.S. There are a lot out there, but I can see where depending on region you might not see many.…

The thing is it wouldn’t be available for the same price. Inflation and higher safety standards would make it a significantly more expensive car, and for good reason. With modern technology it would probably be a “better” car, but it should be for an additional $15k on MSRP (that’s a figure based on calculating MSRP…

You do realize their current engine is based off of the FA20T, right? They’ve also pretty much said the car will never get forced induction.

Considering the FR-S/BRZ outsold the entire production run of the S2000 and have outsold pretty much every generation of the Miata, I’d say they’re producing what people want.

Considering the FR-S/BRZ outsold the entire production run of the S2000 and have outsold pretty much every generation of the Miata, I’d say they’re producing what people want.

I drive like an old man and have never had an issue. With a rev happy car you need to learn to drive in the high RPMs if you want to get it moving, which is perfectly fine. You just come from a 335, which has lots of HP/TQ, and aren’t use to a car that makes you work a little for it. You want the point, push, shoot…